Is there any reason to cry that Tesla dumped prices overnight? What consequences does this have for us car buyers? Tesla has done it before, and will do it again. I'm laughing - read why.
A slap in the face?
The announced tax changes meant that many were in a hurry to order and have an electric car delivered before the New Year. Last year's best-selling car was the Tesla Model Y. From January 2023, the price of the Long Range AWD rose by NOK 33 due to taxes. "Money saved", probably thought many new owners. But the joy was short-lived. Just 14 days later, Tesla lowered the price of the same model so that the retail price was NOK 104 lower, - or NOK 995 compared to the price before the New Year. It's hardly a disaster, but it doesn't give a good feeling either.
Price reduction in kroner
It is easy to get confused by the frequent price changes. I have taken as a starting point the car prices for a ready-to-drive car - exclusive of winter tires and extra equipment. The prices before the turn of the year is picked up from Bilnytt.no - period today prices are taken from BilNorge.no - all numbers with presumed origin from OFV.no. Subject to errors, the figures are intended to show the effect of Tesla's price reduction seen in relation to the prices before the tax change. It is the which applies to the vast majority.
Model
Price now *
Change in January 2023
Change from December 2022
Model Y SR RWD
420 000
-125 000
-102 390
Model Y LR AWD
490 880
-104 995
-71 510
Model And Performance
580 310
-65 790
-22 080
Model 3 SR RWD
388 140
-50 000
-34 250
Model 3 LR AWD
489 190
-36 708
-18 200
Model 3 performance
553 400
-9 537
+16 010
* Prices include VAT, weight tax and scrap deposit. Tesla quotes its prices without taxes.
Affects the used car trade
- "Many people laugh at Elon Musk's many stunts in the car industry, but everyone who has an electric car in their garage should cry. We have spent ten years building up the company and then the angel of death Elon Musk spends a day bringing us down, says owner and CEO Magnus Grosseth in the used car shop K Bil på Rud to Finansavisen" (quote Budstikka.no)
Several independent car dealers hastily imported the Tesla Model Y for sale to customers before the tax change. At the moment, there are 104 brand new, fully registered cars out there Finn.no bought in and priced before Tesla lowered the prices. Dealers, such as K Bil, may lose millions due to the price reduction. This is not Tesla's business, but that can touching everyone who has a Tesla in their garage. Since Tesla Norway does not take trade-in cars, the owners have to sell the cars themselves. After what has happened, serious used car dealers hardly dare to sit with particularly many Teslas in stock. It's bad news for today's Tesla owners when they have to sell.
Tesla Model Y (Photo: Depositphotos/Viktor4ik)
Opens for new times
There are many things in society that have changed, for example in tourism. The car industry, on the other hand, is in the same place as when I bought my first new car from Chrico, Ensjø, in the early 1980s. One of the factors that has hampered development in the car industry is the large, powerful and static dealer chains. Tesla's price changes have unfortunately hit several independent dealers hard. They have also given many Tesla owners a slap in the face. But I laugh out loud when I think about that Elon Musk is in the process of speeding up a reform in the industry that could have been carried out several years ago - and which consumers will ultimately benefit from.
The large dealer chains, tied to stocks of used cars and leased cars, cannot follow Tesla's price reductions without heavy losses. Maybe smaller, new players can?
Tesla has done it before
If you bought a Tesla Model 3 in Q3 2020, you bought at an "all time high". The dollar exchange rate was high, and Tesla prices increased. But then Tesla opened its new factory in Shanghai and more Teslas than ever rolled out. Norway got cars from China and the prices were lowered - not just once. It has never been cheaper to buy a Tesla. Last autumn, Tesla's Gigafactory opened in Berlin and we are seeing the same thing happen again. Tesla does not produce cars for long-term storage. They will be issued in the same quarter - whatever the cost.
Will Tesla lower prices again? Guaranteed!
This Tesla Model 3 from Q3 2020 was bought when prices were "all time high".
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Tesla has announced that Model 3 and Y produced from October 2022 will no longer be equipped with either radar or ultrasonic distance sensors. They are to be replaced with a system based exclusively on cameras, the only ones in the world.
Tesla chooses its own path
Elon Musk has stated that a camera-based surveillance system can do as good a job as the human eye, while condemning LIDAR - the system that all other car manufacturers rely on. Tesla has so far used ultrasonic distance sensors together with cameras. Since the sensors are mainly used for parking assistance, the loss should not result in any change to the safety level. Unfortunately, Tesla customers with brand new cars will not have access to the parking alarm, self-parking or summon functions for the time being. This will be supplemented in later software updates.
Musk claims that the camera-based system, Tesla Vision, will be far less expensive than laser and radar-based systems – and make cars cheaper for most people. He predicts that LIDAR will lose steam Tesla Vision and mentions several reasons. Among other things, camera-based systems will provide better accuracy, for example being able to distinguish between a plastic bag and a bump in the road, and more easily see which way the object is moving. Furthermore, camera-based systems will be more precise and dynamic than LIDAR, which is based, among other things, on static map data.
Unjustified sudden stops
In several forums it is now being discussed whether new Teslas are as safe as before. It is reported that several cars without sensors have made unmotivated sudden stops - so-called phantom braking. One wonders whether all previous safety functions will continue to function, for example warning for oncoming traffic when turning left at an intersection.
Traffic lights, cones and other traffic are captured
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LIDAR-based systems are based on a dense belt of laser signals where the return signals indicate the distance between the objects. The density of the signal flow makes it possible to draw the contours of each object, but gives little information about what lies within the contours. LIDAR's strength is that it provides reliable distance measurements and size of the objects - and can tell with a high degree of certainty whether you are on a collision course with something. RADAR follows the same principle as LIDAR, but transmits radio signals instead of laser. The radio signals can reach greater distances, but give a less accurate picture of the objects.
Tesla Vision
Vision-based systems are based on two-dimensional images of the same thing that we see with our own eyes, actually better than the human eye can, including in poor lighting conditions. The disadvantage is that the solution does not provide any exact distance measurements. It makes high demands on software and computing power. Image processing is demanding, and there is a risk that the processing takes a disproportionately long time when many, rapid and large changes occur at the same time, which is predictable in critical situations - when it matters most.
One such case is when someone walks out into the road just after you have turned the car into a side street.
Then everyone missed
In 2019, AAA in the USA tested several car models that all failed in this situation. They let a doll cross the road just as the test car turned the corner. None of the cars in the test were programmed to handle this situation. Car manufacturers understandably prioritize the same tests as Euro NCAP and IIHS because it is de which assesses the car models' safety level. Euro NCAP tests various scenarios with collisions from the rear between vehicles. The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS) covers more scenarios than Euro NCAP, including left turns into crossing traffic and incidents between cars and pedestrians. It is especially the last that seems to cause the most problems.
AAA tested 2019 models with dismal results.
AAA tested these scenarios in 2019
American Automobile Association (AAA) is the American equivalent of NAF. The tests they did in 2019 were of the same type as the IIHS performs, but not exactly identical. They show that the cars are not (were) as safe as the results in Euro NCAP and IIHS indicate. The AAA tests included the following:
Children who are thrown between two street-parked cars while the car is traveling at 32 km/h. 90% failed.
Children crossing the road at the same time as a car turns around a street corner at 32 km/h. 100% failed.
Two pedestrians walk next to each other while a car approaches from behind at 32 km/h. 80% failed. The same test gave even worse results in the dark.
In 2019, the Tesla Model 3 did neither better nor worse than the other models.
Both?
The problem with Tesla Vision is that the system should interpret 2-dimensional images into 3D. It often goes wrong, as for example when I recently drove on a Class B motorway where the white border strip had a thin strip on the outside - perhaps from a mis-marking. The Tesla interpreted this as a high edge and marked it on the screen. Every time I approached the curb at 100 km/h the collision warning screeched. LIDAR would understand that this was no physical obstacle. LIDAR, for its part, can alert the driver when leaves or light plastic are blowing over the road. Tesla Vision supported with LIDAR would be an ideal solution – at least on more expensive Tesla models. But it is unlikely to work since the company manager has ruled LIDAR north and down?
Do not try this at home!
Testing automatic emergency stops is not something you should do at home. Leave it to the pros. I must admit, however, that I have seen emergency stops a couple of times in connection with pedestrian crossings where there is a close distance between pedestrians and cars. The situations have arisen when I have walked in a row towards the pedestrian crossing with dogs and stopped to let the cars drive over first - both times with eye contact with those behind the wheel. I don't know if it's my brisk walk or the dogs' movements, but the cars chose to oversteer the drivers in such a way that the people sitting in the cars were hanging in their seat belts, terrified. A special feature of the emergency stop is that the wheels are not locked after the sudden stop before the driver puts his foot on the brake. In the shock, it usually takes a couple of seconds. Only then can you go over.
Facts IIHS
The IIHS (Insurance Institute of Highway Security) includes the following tests between vehicles and pedestrians.
Children crossing the road behind two street-parked cars. The test is carried out for 20 kmh and for 40 kmh.
Crossing adult person. The test is carried out at two speeds, 20 km/h and 40 km/h.
Adult person parallel in the same lane. The test is carried out at two speeds, 40 km/h and 60 km/h.
IIHS tests in 2019 and 2022
Tesla Model 3
In 2019, the car failed quite badly when crossing children. Only a minimal speed reduction was recorded in both 20 and 40 km/h. In the case of an adult pedestrian in the same lane, the car slowed down so much from 60 km/h that it only swerved into the pedestrians. In 2022, Tesla passed all tests without hitting any of the pedestrians.
Volvo XC40 (LIDAR)
The tests in 2019 and 2022 gave exactly the same results. The Volvo passed all the tests, but ran into pedestrians on two occasions.
Hyundai Kona (LIDAR)
The results for 2019 and 2022 are almost identical. Hyundai passed tests carried out at low speed (20 km/h). At 40 km/h, the car was unable to slow down sufficiently and hit the victims at 11 km/h. With an adult pedestrian parallel in the same lane, the car slowed down from 60 km/h to 37 km/h before it ran into the victim. In tests like this, the cars get points for detecting the pedestrian and managing to reduce their speed. Hyundai scored worse than Tesla and Volvo, but was still rated "Advanced".
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Cooling the batteriesNegative focus on winter range
After an accident in Paris last Sunday, the renowned taxi company G7 has suspended all its Tesla 3s pending police investigations. The brakes didn't work.
A fatal accident
The accident happened last Sunday at 21pm in the evening when a Tesla Model 3 from the taxi company G7 was about to stop at a street intersection. Instead of slowing down, it sped up. The Tesla hit two pedestrians and a cyclist, smashed a glass collection container and crashed into a van. The result was fatal. 1 person died after the accident and 20 were injured - of which 3 are still serious. Several were injured by the glass container which had risen into the air and exploded when it hit the ground. Photos from the accident show a street scene that turned into a battlefield within seconds. A nearby restaurant was used as a gathering place for the wounded.
No brake – just full throttle
The driver stated that the brakes had no effect, and that the car sped off as if the gas had hung up. The extent of the damage confirms such a course of events. The driver had this evening off and used the car to drive to a restaurant with his family.
The accident car came driving here when the gas stuck up. From the Tolbiac quarter in the 13th (clipping from Google Maps).
Temporarily out of service
Although the accident occurred during the driver's free time, the taxi company announced on Tuesday that it has decided to take all 37 of its Tesla Model 3 out of service - following suspicions of a technical fault with the car. The police are leading the investigation. Several newspapers have obtained statements from the car manufacturer. Tesla claims that the car reported the status "No fault" prior to the accident. The police will have access to further information as well as the footage from the car's four cameras. Whatever one may think of the reason, the taxi company's decision to suspend the Tesla 3 until the reason is known is absolutely correct.
What to do in a similar situation?
According to the local newspaper Le Monde Tesla states that they have investigated cases of "unintentional acceleration" in the past, but never found fault with the vehicles, - it is understood that it is driver error. The has temporary loss of brakes on the Tesla S has been registered. An error has also been detected in the fixing of the brake calipers on the Tesla 3 - but this should not have caused any accidents. According to Tesla experts, in an emergency the car can be slowed down by holding the Park button on the gear lever until the car is stopped by the parking brake. If the car gives full throttle of its own accord - for example by the throttle sticking up in the floor mat - you can hold down the gear selector for 2 seconds. Then the car goes into "neutral". If the foot touches two pedals at the same time, the engine power is cut.
It will be interesting to find out what caused the accident in Paris. You can't completely rule out the human factor, can you?
Electric car owners in cold regions certainly have good access to electricity where they park. But what happens if you are visiting and have to leave the electric car overnight in the freezing cold without access to electricity?
Looking for the cold
It was reported -16 degrees, but already after Lillehammer I saw that the degrees crept down to -18. It looked promising for a cold test. In Gudbrandsdalen, temperatures can vary with local conditions. I was on my way to check the holiday home before the winter holidays. Thawing water pipes, turning on the heat, shoveling, putting up firewood, chasing away mice, as well as other necessary caretaker tasks. It takes time to fire up a house with an inside temperature of 4 degrees. The cold did not disappoint. During the evening and night, the outside temperature dropped to -24,9 degrees.
The cold steals kilowatt-hours
I parked the Tesla with 80% on the batteries after charging on Øyer. The remaining battery capacity decreased in line with the falling outside temperature, but stabilized at 73% when the thermometer stopped at -24 degrees. During the night, 7% of the batteries had evaporated in the cold - of Tesla's 75 kwh, this amounts to 5,25 kwh.
Cold degrees
Lightning-fast heating of the compartment
Ready to leave, I started heating the cabin by preheating the batteries at the same time as scraping the windows. Scraping wasn't really necessary. The car warmed up long before I expected - much faster than in modern petrol cars. After I had turned off the water in the laundry cellar, loaded the luggage into the car and locked the house, the car was wonderfully warm and ice-free. Almost 15 minutes had passed.
Just driving?
The heating had taken another 2% of the batteries. They were now down to 71%. In total, the night had cost 9% of the battery capacity (6,75 kwh). But I was a little too quick on my feet to get off. The app that heats up the car shows a battery symbol with an ice rose when it preheats the batteries. It switches off when the temperature in the batteries is 19 degrees. I preheated for 15 minutes. Ideally, I should have continued preheating until the battery symbol went out. Preheating the batteries is not only for comfort, but to make the best use of the remaining battery capacity. If the batteries are too cold, they will not accept charging from regenerative energy. It therefore pays to preheat the batteries even if the car is not plugged in. I could have preheated for maybe 30-60 minutes. All monners leave. 15-20 minutes drains maybe 2 percent of the batteries, but makes the batteries give more range when you start driving.
Preheating the batteries
The pre-heating in the Tesla 3 uses the electric motors to produce the heat. The heating of the batteries is water-based – coolant that passes through all the cells. The pre-heating does not drain more power from the batteries than quiet driving, so you can start the pre-heating in good time. When you come from petrol and diesel cars, you are set on getting off as soon as the routes are ice-free. But preheating electric cars does not generate any toxic gases or noise. You can optionally start pre-heating without the air conditioning - or low temperature in the passenger compartment and gradually turn up the heat to save the batteries.
Tesla Supercharger on Øyer. -16 and wind made it colder than it looks.
Slow charging in the cold
Although the batteries had not reached ideal temperature, they worked fine from the first kilometer. Consumption was the same as the day before. After 1 mile of driving, I set my destination to a charging station to buy coffee and sausage - and test charging. Tesla preheats the batteries before arrival, which in my case was calculated for 10 minutes. The batteries thus received additional preheating to cope with the cold. But the batteries were probably not quite ready to receive electricity. It took a few minutes before charging started, and then with low power. Although I was the only customer at Tesla's Supercharger facility, the maximum charging power did not reach more than 27 Kw during my little lunch break. The day before, the batteries received 87 Kw. But I didn't really need much power, so when the break was over, I moved on.
No big increase in consumption
The experts warn against higher electricity consumption in the cold - up to 41% higher than in summer. My winter consumption on the section Oslo - Øyer this trip was 25% higher than the lowest record measurement from September last year - and about the same level as other measurements made in warmer temperatures under alternating driving and driving conditions. Nor did the trip up offer any surprises in terms of range. I don't know if it is of great importance, but I drive with a thick sweater and an indoor temperature between 19-20 degrees. It is possible T-shirt and 25 degrees could have given other experiences.
Don't forget to preheat the batteries in the cold!
We jokingly refer to it as "The parasite car". The last bill from Fjellinjen was only NOK 56.
It costs us a small smile to have been able to buy a car with almost 500 HP completely tax-free, and cruise freely around the country while others pay the bill. Tesla has recently announced that they have lowered the price by 35 and are also equipping new cars with a heat pump. If you are considering buying an electric car, it might be a good idea not to wait too long. It is probably only a matter of time before the authorities introduce VAT on electric cars.
Range
We have just been on a trip Oslo-Tønsberg-Oslo. The most expensive expense was parking. Tønsberg municipality has decided that all cars must pay the same parking fee – including electric cars. Electricity consumption and tolls are not much to talk about. It's just change. In contrast, practical range is of greater interest. Although the Tesla Model 3 Long Range has a battery capacity that others can envy, the practical range varies quite a bit.
Capacity at start
Capacity at end
Estimated range
Km driven
Driving route
Temperature
Lead
Speed
75%
19%
510
286
Fornebu-Skien return
17-18
Dry
Calm
83%
33%
420
210
Fornebu Islands
12-14
Dry
fast
90%
44%
433
199
Fornebu-Kongsberg and surroundings return
7-10
Dry
Normal
90%
36%
370
200
Fornebu-Tønsberg return
8-10
Rain
fast
98%
61%
400
148
Fornebu-Eidanger
9-10
Partially wet/dry
fast
We clearly see that the range decreases if you keep to 110-120 instead of 80-90 km/h. If we enter figures for driving over 20 miles, we discover something interesting. You get there faster if you "take it easy" and fast-charge along the way instead of maintaining truck-train speed. Over a stretch of 20 miles, you save 30 minutes if it is possible to maintain an average speed of 100 instead of 80 km/h. Then there is more than enough time to quickly charge the batteries up to the same level you had at the start.
At Ingeborgrud Chapel, Nes på Romerike.
Tesla's Superchargers
Tesla's charging network is one of the reasons to choose Tesla over other electric cars. The Tesla 3 can use the latest Superchargers (labeled "Model 3 Priority"). If you enter a Tesla charging station as a destination on the navigation system, the car will automatically warm up the batteries before you arrive. Then they take an optimal charge right away. Shorter charging time and less queuing. Tesla does not want charging queues. If you stand at the charging station after the car is fully charged, you have to pay an additional fee - and you get angry messages on your mobile.
Friday afternoon. We are on our way to Eidanger to top up the batteries so we don't have to charge when the Friday rush comes.
Tricky with downtime
At Tesla's charging stations, you don't need a charging chip, app or payment card. The system knows who you are when you plug the charging connector into the car. Payment is made automatically. But - as we also experienced during the purchase process - Tesla's Norwegian systems are not particularly reliable. Already after two recharges, we were bombarded with messages that we had not paid and were banned from future recharges. One of the systems in Norway was down, and no one fixed it until the next day. Quite tricky if you are on a long trip.
No problem charging when you can read Terje's cars in the meantime
Smile at hidden Teslacam!
Fortunately, the software inside the car works better. It is impressive that you can follow on your mobile where the car is at any time, how fast it is going and how much electricity is left in the batteries. Nice when you borrow the car. The built-in cameras around the car are also quite unique for Tesla. Tesla must be every private investigator's dream. No point in hiding with a telephoto lens. You can easily film everything without those around you knowing about it - and without being present yourself. The cameras can be started with the mobile phone. Just make sure the lenses are clean.
A small TeslaCam film from a visit to Tønsberg with Slottsfjellet in focus.
The Sentry feature
Best of all is Tesla's Sentry function, which detects if someone slams the door into the side of the car, or dents. You can also click the camera button manually, should something happen on the road. Film footage from the last minute is then saved, so you can study the film from all four sides of the car at your leisure. The only thing you need is a memory stick. Select "Security" in the menu and you can format the memory and decide when and where you want to take pictures.
No danger to "Fiffus" when the car is in "Dog Mode".
Own dog mode
Another great Tesla feature is Dog Mode, which keeps the air conditioning running while the dog is alone inside a locked car. After you lock the car, a message appears on the screen explaining to passers-by that the air conditioning is on and that the owner will be back soon. By all means, don't forget to switch on Dog Mode even if you're only going out on a short errand. If you lock the car without having set it to Dog Mode, the car alarm will go off as soon as the dog starts to move.
Two to do list
Buy and install wheel covers for the winter tyres. They look extremely "sloppy", but extend the range at a time of year when every km counts.
Buy an adapter for jack mounts and a new garage jack to make it possible to change the wheels yourself. Tesla does not deliver winter tires with the car, but distributes them via a tire hotel.
Fit the mud flaps we got when we picked up the car. They are supposed to be a must on bad roads. Several Tesla owners have had their paintwork damaged due to mud and gravel from the wheels.
Buy a larger memory stick to be able to store more Tesla recordings from our trips.
Maybe it can be fun entertainment on dark winter evenings?
A fine autumn day in Kongsberg - at the Technology Park.
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In the search for a new reportage car, the choice fell today on the Tesla Model 3 Long Range. It must be done not to choose Tesla when driving an electric car to France.
Has a wall charger - looking for a car
If you have your own wall charger, you can drive cheaply with rechargeable cars. The lady of the house thought that the time had come to replace the hybrid car with a proper electric car. Her list of demands was simple. It must have the range to drive round trip Oslo Skien - mid-winter. And then it must not be too big and wide – not an SUV. I myself dream of driving an electric car to France one day. It makes all the arrows point towards Tesla. I still choose to keep an open mind. Actually, I don't like Tesla.
Interesting nyheter
"The new Corsa is nice". My wife likes small cars. I have to agree. It's been decades since Opel launched a car that looks this good. It looks bigger than its stable brother, the Peugeot e-208. The Peugeot has a more youthful and sporty feel than the more mature Corsa. But both cars are small cars with little luggage space. The high-built Peugeot e-2008 shares drivetrains with the e-208 and e-Corsa, but extra space steals 19 km of range. I'm happy to sacrifice that range for more space.
Peugeot 2008. Off-road design with messy lines.
Range matters a lot
The battery pack in the Opel e-Corsa provides a range of 336 km (WLTP). The stated range for the larger Peugeot e-2008 is 320 km. Such ranges mean that the cars can function as car number 1 for most people. You will be able to drive Oslo Skien round trip on the same charge with a slightly economical gas foot, but hardly on the coldest winter days.
Development is going fast. The newcomers from PSA show today's high level. These are cars you can get on the road for under NOK 300. Two other newcomers to the electric car market, Mazda MX-30 og Honda and, by comparison, have far too little range – 200 and 222 km respectively. Range is as important for electric cars as "location" is for homes.
Beautiful flower arrangements at Stabekk.
The yardstick
It is not fair to compare the Tesla Model 3 with the e-Corsa and the new electric Peugeots. Tesla is much more expensive. Nevertheless, it is a model that cannot be ignored. It is designed as an electric car from the ground up. Two engines and super low center of gravity with driving characteristics like a sports car. It offers ranges others can only dream of, as well as an international network of charging stations. Although many of the Teslas have had childhood illnesses, they seem durable once the problems are resolved. Tesla also has a very hard time low value loss.
Minimalism
Inside, the Tesla 3 bears the stamp of minimalism. It is unusual to deal with only one centrally positioned screen. I think this is an easy fix. The dashboard is a PC with a screen - not vulnerable electronic components scattered around within a dashboard that take hours to disassemble and reinsert. Externally, the Tesla bears the stamp of having been shaped in the wind tunnel. The omission of the grill increases the range by several kilometres. What is most important for an electric car? Tough grill or extra range? Minimalism in practice. No thing is there without having a function.
Model 3
Tesla wins on range and charging outside Norway
The advantage of having your own wall charger is the comfort of always having electricity in the car and avoiding public charging stations. Also, electricity is cheaper there. The price for installing your own box is admittedly additional, but you get that money back on the day you sell the house. The point of wall chargers and long range is that you reduce the need to visit charging stations. If you are not extremely sporty and outgoing, charging along the road appears like a plague and a nuisance. I'm willing to pay a lot of money to avoid standing in a charging line along an access road on a Sunday night.
In Europe there are not many charging stations - at least not fast chargers. Driving an electric car in France and Spain can present challenges. Which charging stations are available? Do they work? Do they take our payment? Are they available? In my French city, there are two municipal charging stations with Type 2 connectors. The city's only two electric cars are permanently parked there. Tesla and the Volkswagen group are currently the only ones that offer (will offer) their own charging networks to ensure mobility over long distances.
Inspection of the rear seats while we test drive.
- And the others?
The reviews are linked to our requirements and spring taste. These are therefore subjective notes that do not give a complete impression of the models.
Here is "The Good, Bad & Ugly"
The PSA group's new electric cars
The PSA group's drivetrain, based on the new 50 KWH battery pack, is used in the Peugeot e-208 and e-2008, Opel e-Corsa and DS3 Crossback. The range of the two crossovers is 320 km, the e-Corsa 336 km and the e-208 339 km. The batteries are water-cooled and can withstand fast charging, but the range will be limited to many. Both the Peugeot e-2008 and DS3 Crossback have slightly quirky designs that you may love or hate. The Peugeot e-2008 has created a front with far too many disjointed lines and angles. My guess is that a facelift will force its way before too long.
Opel e-Corsa
The designers of the Opel e-Corsa have done a good job, but when the digital screen in the instrument panel in front of the driver does not fit into the frame, you understand that components have been used that are obviously made for a different model than the Corsa. Studying this apparent blunder, I think: What other camels has Opel had to swallow to adapt to Peugeot's powertrain?
Do you see the error? The digital screen does not meet the targets. It looks retrofitted.
Volkswagen ID.3 1st
Production has been delayed due to Covid-19, but the cars can be ordered now. The 58 KWH battery pack provides an estimated WLTP range of 420 km. It is good. The new drivetrain is more advanced than the current e-Golf, including liquid cooling of the batteries and no restrictions with regard to receiving fast charging. The Volkswagen Group is the only car manufacturer besides Tesla with its own charging network. It's called IONITY and is currently under development in Norway under Cirkle-K. The charging network is far from fully developed. My guess is that it will take several years before it works in France.
Order now, or wait?
I am not sure that the Volkswagen group will be able to roll out the new cars without problems. Here at home, the problems can be exacerbated by the fact that the dealers (Møller Bil) lack knowledgeable mechanics. Today, battery cars often have to stand for days waiting for an available specialist. It is too early to order a new ID.3 now. I would wait until the dealers are prepared and the charging network is operational. It is being developed in full now.
Hyindai Kona
The Korean models
Korean models with 64 KWH battery packs from LG Chem are in the top tier in terms of range. The Hyundai Kona has a WLTP range of 484 km, the KIA e-Soul has 452 km and the KIA Niro has 455 km. Kona's higher range shows how important it is to have an aerodynamic design. The range of Hyundai and KIA is on a par with the Tesla Model 3. Hyundai and KIA have delivered many electric cars to Norway - and there have supposedly never been any problems with the batteries. The 64 KWH battery pack has liquid-cooled battery cells that can withstand efficient fast charging. The disadvantage of Korean electric cars is that they are more "budget" than "premium". The seats in the Hyundai Kona and Ioniq look nice, but are not very comfortable on long journeys. The seats in the KIA e-Soul suited me well, but the special Asian look did not get a unanimous thumbs up from us.
Hyundai Ioniq
The Hyundai Ioniq comes with a smaller battery pack than the others from the Hyundai group. 38,3 KWH is enough for 311 km (WLTP) which is good for this battery size. The Ioniq has low consumption and is easy to charge. From 2020, the batteries are also liquid-cooled. The range is too short for us. In addition, the seats are relatively uncomfortable - especially on long journeys. In terms of price, it is on a par with the Opel e-Corsa and Peugeot 208, but in terms of space it is considerably larger. The Ioniq offers perhaps the most car for the money.
Renault Zoe
The 2020 model of the Renault Zoe received a mild facelift and larger battery pack. The capacity is now 52 KWH, which gives a WLTP range of a whopping 395 km. There are many Zoe cars on the road during the day - as rental cars in the Oslo area. WE fear that it may affect future trade-in values.
Nissan Leaf
The Nissan Leaf with 62 KWH has a WLTP range of 385 km. Nissan's battery packs lack active battery cooling and may therefore be limited in accepting fast charging due to the batteries being too hot. Blockers for fast charging have also been added to the software - at least on cars manufactured before 2019. The problem is referred to as "rapidgate" because many believe that Nissan has misled its customers. Nissan has come up with a software update, but many still experience poor fast charging. The Nissan Leaf is an example of how battery capacity and range should not be overlooked.
Tesla Model 3
The Tesla Standard Range has a 60 KWH battery pack that gives a WLTP range of 409 km. Tesla Long Range and Performance both have a 75 KWH battery. The Long Range has a range of 560 km, while the model with stronger engines "only" has 530 km. Tesla has had far more childhood illnesses than other brands, especially on new models. The cars are sold according to a new sales model. You can complete the entire order online, including financing and insurance. Tesla does not accept trade-in cars, but offers an opportunity to list the cars on an exchange for 3rd party buyers. Trade-in prices are therefore lower than what brand dealers can offer.
Calm lines around the A-pillar.
Overview
Concern
Model
KWH
km (WLTP)
250 km on winter roads?
Drive to France?
PSA
Peugeot e-208
50
339
Maybe
in this
Peugeot e-2008
50
320
Maybe
in this
Opel e-Corsa
50
336
Maybe
in this
DS3 Crossover
50
320
Maybe
in this
Hyundai
Hyundai Ioniq
38,3
311
in this
in this
Hyundai Kona
64
484
Ja
in this
KIA e-Soul
64
452
Ja
in this
Kia Niro
64
455
Ja
in this
VW
ID.3 1st
58
420
Ja
In the future
Renault
Zoe
52
395
Ja
in this
Nissan
Leaf
40
270
in this
in this
Leaf
62
385
Ja
in this
Mazda
MX-30
35,5
209
in this
in this
Honda
Honda and
28,5
220
in this
in this
Tesla
standard range
60
409
Ja
Ja
Long Range
75
560
Ja
Ja
Performance
75
530
Ja
Ja
See
Tesla 3 Long RangeAre electric cars losing more weight?Tesla buy the lame…Cooling the batteriesHyundai KonaHyundai IoniqAll good things come in threesA rechargeable future?
Fortunately, Tesla is not only about apps and data, but also about driving. The Tesla 3 is a really nice driving machine.
Raw driving experience
Electric motors deliver full torque at once. If you are a little heavy on the gas from the start, it is easy to get wheelspin. Not with the Tesla. It grabs spontaneously with both pairs of wheels and sends us rocketing forward. The computers on board redistribute the power in 1/10th of a second when needed. The center of gravity is very low and the weight distribution is perfect. "My" Tesla 3 Long Range is an early 2019 model with two electric motors – 204 HP front and 258 HP rear – totaling 462 HP. Today's Long Range model produces 476 HP - and the Performance a whopping 490 HP. The torque on "my" car is a solid 639 Nm. It should be possible to accelerate from 0-100 in less than 5 seconds. You don't have to drive far to feel that the Tesla 3 with Dual Motor can challenge the laws of physics.
Data monitoring
If you rent - or borrow - a Tesla, be aware that the owner can monitor everything. If you want to try a Tesla, you should have a serious purpose - not just robbing around aimlessly and without meaning. It was my wife who reminded me of it.
"For the weekend you can hire a car, because then we will visit Grete and Einar."
A Sunday trip to Tønsberg is a great opportunity to try a Tesla Model 3. The car that many praise to the skies. Then the following threat appeared on the mobile:
"If you drive over 130 km/h, the car automatically sends a message to Tesla and to the owner..."
I have long had objections to renting a Tesla. Partly because someone can monitor us, and partly because of my own data anxiety. I like driving better than tinkering with computers. And what do you do, by the way, when the data doesn't work?
The interior of the future
Range
I had charged the batteries so that we had 340 km at our disposal before we left. The trip Oslo-Tønsberg round trip is approximately 200 km. The winter range with Tesla's 75 Kwh battery should be approximately 400 km. WLTP is over 500 km. After driving and charging, the Tesla calculated a theoretical maximum range of 470 km based on our driving pattern on a mild January day.
E-pedal
Tesla does not advertise w/ that, but it has an e-pedal like the Nissan Leaf and the BMW i3. You accelerate and brake with the same pedal. The computer reads the movements well. When you let off the gas careful, slows it down careful. If something comes up that makes you have to slow down more powerful, you lift the accelerator suddenly, - and then the car stops nicely by itself - at the same time as the consumption indicator lights up green. Win-win for traffic flow and consumption. The ordinary brakes were dosed well. Let me also mention the nice steering feel. It can of course be adjusted on the screen. "My" steering was somewhat sporty - but the steering resistance was far from constant and dead. I also liked the thick steering wheel.
The user interface of the future
Tesla 3 owners with a mobile phone and app only need to touch the door handle, and it unlocks and adjusts the seat, steering wheel and mirrors. The owner gets in, puts his foot on the brake and the gear lever in "Drive" - and sets off. I have seen that Volkswagen's new ID.3 should provide similar experiences. We are talking about the user interface of the future. On the way out towards Asker, we both sit and try to figure out how to switch on the radio. With my nose up at the screen, I feel that the steering wheel vibrates as we touch the edge. The central 15-inch screen takes some getting used to, especially when it also covers the most common buttons on the dashboard.
Heian - in the middle of Ramnessletta with Skjegestadåsen in the background.
Over the plains
Could you imagine a Tesla?
I answer like that er, that I feel helpless in a car I can't fix anything on. But the Tesla gave a great driving experience. So good that I took a small detour down Bispeveien (RV35) from Kronlia - then a turn from Revetal to my childhood village, Ramnes. I have heard that this is Norway's third largest plain. In my childhood, I often crossed the plain on a bicycle, skis or kicks. Today, the distances seem shorter. I made a short stop to take some pictures. We are at the end of January and the fields have already got green shoots. A few decades ago, you would have seen a skinny, snotty boy kicking away on sparkling winter fields.
Back to the purpose
The detour over Heianveien had not gone down well with my beloved. We were 20 minutes late for lunch in Tønsberg, which was really the purpose of the trip. I silently thought that someone might be watching us with a hidden camera and wondering why the entourage had stopped in the middle of a field in the middle of nowhere. Just to look at the "gender", like? “Hey Bill, look! What's that guy from Norway doing?»
Not like other cars
Elon Musk realized early on that it was necessary to build up his own infrastructure around the cars, in the form of charging stations, cars that themselves communicate with the headquarters, apps and the like. It is only when the Teslas come into contact with other systems that things can go wrong. For example, if you fast charge at other charging stations. After charging has been completed in the prescribed manner, the Tesla may refuse you to remove the charging cable from the car. My son - who has driven a lot of Teslas - says that one of the charging companies said that this was a common Tesla problem. "Put the red emergency stop button on the pump hard, and the cable will release!" I found out that there is a secret rubber strap inside the padding in the trunk. With the middle finger, you can pry it forward - and voilà, the contact is released. I love low-tech solutions, but for uninitiated Tesla 3 owners such problems can ruin the day.
Tesla's 19-inch sports rims
No stop button
When I had to return the car via the app to the car-sharing service Hyre.no, I received an error message that I could not return the car while the engine was running. On the Tesla 3, you don't switch off the engine. You put the car in "Park", get out and lock the car. The rental app therefore did not let me end the rental relationship until the immobilizer turned on a quarter of an hour later. This is not Tesla's fault, but a discrepancy between Tesla and the real world. Separate buttons for the handbrake and engine on/off are by no means necessary in 2020, but many expect such buttons to be in place.
Place
With a length of 4,69, the Tesla is the size of the Audi A4 and the BMW 3 series. You get the same impression behind the wheel as well. But the sitting comfort in the back seat is far from satisfactory for long-legged adults. It seems surprisingly cramped compared to the space you actually have, and I wonder if it might have something to do with how the seats are designed. The rear seat seems to have too low and flat a seat cushion, - and the seat backs on the front seats could perhaps have had a different, more space-efficient design. There is plenty of space in front, and you sit comfortably - that is, jeg sat very well, but my wife thought the seats were too hard in the stop.
Luggage compartment
The luggage compartment is divided into two, one at the back and one small compartment at the front - in what Tesla owners call the "frunken"? In total, there are 425 liters - 340 liters at the back and 85 at the front. The rear seats can be folded down (in 2 parts) so you can load through. The biggest limitation is the low height of the luggage compartment. On my way to drive my son to the train this morning, I discovered that there is only room for one regular suitcase.
340 liters of luggage space at the back and 85 at the front.
Security
The Tesla Model 3 gets very good results both in tests carried out by Euro NCAP and the American IIHS. NCAP scores the Tesla as one of the best for 2019, along with the new BMW 3 series. The biggest demonstrated weakness is lateral collisions with posts. Then the driver suffers damage to the ribs corresponding to the level Marginal. Other tests are top class. In the safety assessment, I would also like to mention the digital 4-wheel system of the Dual Motor models. This is active safety at its best, as long as you don't get too cocky. I haven't had the chance to test it under demanding conditions, but I think it has to be the best 4-wheel drive system out there - perhaps better than Audi's original Quattro system. Last weekend we drove on a back road with almost blank ice and storm water. Would love to have the Tesla da.
The main reason for me to choose the Tesla 3 is the raw driving characteristics. For the same price as a good family car, you get a car that can compete with sports cars that "fart" between gear changes. The Tesla doesn't make noise and it doesn't smoke, and best of all – you can charge a full tank for a hundred on your own wall charger. The world's best range (with 75 Kwh) is reason number 2. With this car, you can get all the way to the cabin without charging en route.
Tesla is not like other cars and can present technical challenges in daily use - incidents that I experienced during my weekend. Fortunately, most of the challenges are well described on YouTube.
Everything is on the smartphone.
Unmistakably Tesla - low cw coefficient
Facts about the Tesla Model 3 LR Dual Motor
Weights and Measures
Length, width, height: 469 / 185 / 144 cm
Wheelbase: 287 cm
Net weight: 1856 kg (without driver)
Max trailer weight with brakes: 910 kg
Boot: 425 liters (340 rear and 85 front)
Cw: 0,21
Drivetrain
Cars manufactured before March 2019: Electric motor 204 HP (front) + electric motor 258 HP (rear) = 462 HP (total)
Cars manufactured by March 2019: 476 HP (Long Range), 490 HP (Performance)
Performances (cars manufactured after March 2019)
Range (WLTP): 560 km (Long Range), 530 km (Performance)
Top speed: 233 km/h (Longe Range), 261 km/h (Performance)
0-100: 4,6 seconds (Long Range), 3,4 km/h (Performance)
charging
Tesla Supercharger (150 Kw, CCS): 45-60 minutes
11 KW (Type 2): approx. 7 hours
Concrete charging examples:
Quick charger 50 Kw (CCS) from 50% to 74% capacity corresponding to 27 Kwh: 48 minutes
Indoor wall charger 7,4 Kw (Type 2) from 26% to 90% capacity: 5 hours
Price and equipment
Base price: NOK 459 (Long Range), NOK 900 (Performance)
Lacquer supplement (Deep Blue): NOK 8
19″ sports rims: NOK 13
Towbar: NOK 8 (not on the mentioned car)
White interior: NOK 8
Autopilot: NOK 50
Like a computer game. Tesla shows the traffic situation.
See
Tesla against "smoke"Life with Tesla 3Do electric cars lose more in value?The temperature in electric car batteriesHow many kWh does the Tesla 3 lose in the blast cold?Excessive focus on winter range