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Cars from 2004 with future value

cars from 2004
 

Some vintage cars become cult cars, while others end up as scruffy, old cars. I speculate which 20-year-old cars might become valuable as future vintage cars.

 

Ordinary cars that became valuable

Think back to the mid-80s. What would you give for a faded 20 year old Volkswagen Transporter, Volvo Amazon or Citroen DS? Not to mention exclusive cars like the Porsche 356 and Mercedes-Benz Pagode? Some cars have gained cult status and are sold for staggering sums after 40 years, while others are "nice old cars" where you can hardly expect to recoup the costs of refurbishment, even.

20 years

After 20 years, most cars will have reached their lowest value, regardless of their condition - even cars in a high price range. They are unlikely to become less exclusive over the years, but which car models from 2004 will be most in demand over the next 20 years? 2004 generally does not seem like a good year for future classics.

Import unprofitable

Cars that are older than 20 years can be brought into Norway without a one-off tax. The only thing you need to pay is 25% VAT and a wreck deposit. The prices of Norwegian cars are roughly at the same level as in Europe. Even if they were bought with one-off tax, there is little or nothing left of it at today's prices. That man vile mark, is whether you have to pay Norwegian VAT without having VAT deducted from the seller's country. For cheap cars, it makes little difference - but for exclusive cars, foreign cars will then be more expensive than Norwegian ones. The advantage of searching for cars abroad is that the selection is larger, especially for cars with low km.

The news in 2004

The following models were introduced in autumn 2004 as 2005 models: Volkswagen Golf 5, Audi A4 B7, Porsche 911 997, Chevrolet Corvette C6, Ford Mustang 5 and Ferrari F430. From the second half of 2024, the cars will meet the requirements for exemption from one-off tax, but the selection is limited and early cars can, as is known, be infected with childhood diseases. This applies, among other things, to previous versions of the Porsche 911 997 and Chevrolet Corvette C6. Of the new models that were produced as model year 2004, we find the Aston Martin DB9 and the Ferrari 612 Scaglietti. These are self-written classics.
 

These can become classics


 
English cars
You don't have to be psychic to see that cars like Aston Martin and Morgan become classics. The Aston Martin DB9 represents the brand's new line. The model is a direct successor to the DB7, but it is said that Aston Martin chose to call it the DB9 because it was at least two generations after the DB7. The MG TF was based on the MGF - and was a fairly affordable car in 2004 (NOK 314). It was MG Rover Group first model after the brand was sold from BMW. I think it has the potential to become a classic because it is the last MG before the brand was sold to China.
 
Italian cars
There are several Ferrari 612 Scagliettis from 2004 for sale. It was the first year the model was produced and appears today as a sure classic. Production of the Ferrari F430 began in the fall of 2004, but I have not found any of the very first cars for sale. The predecessor Ferrari 360, on the other hand, is well represented at the car exchanges. The Lamborghini Gallardo was launched as the new small Lamborghini in 2003, and is a clear classic in this company.
 
The affordable ones
The Honda S2000 looks rather anonymous, but represents a possibly extinct branch of the Honda group. A well-built and smooth-driving 2-seater open sports car from the world's best engine builder is worth taking care of. The classic stamp is somewhat uncertain. All the Z models from Nissan are – or will become – classics. The 350 Z belongs to a modern line of the Z series which means that it will stay young for a long time. All Saabs will be able to become future classics, including the GM Vectra-based Saab 9-3. However, I think the 9-3 sedan and station wagon are too commonplace to interest car enthusiasts. The cabriolet version evokes good Saab memories for many, and stands out in traffic.
 

Worthy of preservation?


 
Almost classics
Of cars from 2004, two Germans can stand out as classics, namely the Audi S4/RS4 and the BMW 6-series E63. In autumn 2004, the Audi A4 B6 was replaced by the B7 with a monoframe grill, which the S4 also got. The Chevrolet Corvette C6 and Porsche 911 997 are obvious future classics, but I think buyers will target cars produced later than 2004 due to known issues with early cars. The Corvette struggled with gearbox problems and the Porsche inherited the engine problems from the 996 – where a valve timing auxiliary shaft (IMS) bearing can cause problems.
 
Saab and Volvo
Saab 9-3 and 9-5 may gain popularity in the wake of previous models. Both the Saab 9-3 and 9-5 share a platform with, among others, the Opel Vectra and Fiat Croma mk2, which do not appear to be desirable vintage cars. Volvo's model program for 2004 does not give any special classic vibes. The Volvo S80, V70 and XC70 were not particularly beautiful. The Volvo S40/V50 came into production as new models in 2004, but will hardly gain any value as classics. The sister model, the C70 Cabriolet, on the other hand, is a 2004 model that may arouse interest as a vintage car. It is beautiful, rare - and Volvo.
 
Small sports cars
In 2004, you could buy the Toyota MR-2 and Smart Roadster as fairly affordable cars (Smart Roadster: NOK 200-294 and Toyota MR-000: NOK 2-310). They are simple, beautiful and smooth-driving with mid-mounted engines. As they have not gained a following, they may be in demand among people looking for fun 'old fashioned' petrol cars for hobby use.

 

Hidden gems?


 
Jaguar V8
Jaguars with a V8 engine were expensive cars in 2004 – from NOK 1 million – largely due to taxes. They can become attractive as vintage cars. When Jaguar introduced V8 engines in the 90s they had childhood ailments which were corrected before 2004.
 
Affordable sports cars
The Chrysler Crossfire and Mercedes-Benz SLK R170 are based on the same platform. They are cheap now, and it remains to be seen whether they will increase in value. The Mazda MX-5 has carried on the English roadster tradition and will be fine hobby cars. Mazda RX-8 with wankel engine was sold new in Norway. They are beautiful, but the wankel might be too weird to win demand. The Porsche Boxster 987 lives in the shadow of the Porsche 911, at least here at home. Further south in Europe, the Boxster and Cayman are more popular. The Cayman had not yet been launched in 2004.
 
Ordinary cars
Alfa Romeo, BMW 3 Series, Mini and Volkswagen Golf are popular cars even after they have become veterans. Will the 2004 models of Alfa and Volkswagen be as popular? I think special editions like the Alfa Romeo GT, BMW 3 Series Cabriolet, Mini Cooper Cabriolet and Volkswagen Golf GTI may still be worth looking after.
 
SUVs and MPVs
The Range Rover and Toyota Land Cruiser are worth mentioning because their predecessors are sought after as vintage cars. Will the Range Rover mk3 be as popular as the mk1, and will the Land Cruiser J100 be as popular as the J40? I would also like to mention the Renault Espace mk3. The Mk1 was one of the first MPVs on the market. The problem now is that MPVs are no longer as popular among new cars. Among MPVs, the Volkswagen T5 also belongs, especially with nice editions of the Multivan, Caravelle and camping editions.
 

Which 2004 models do you think will become future classics?

 

See

New import rules

Skatteetaten.no - list prices in 2004

Photo Sunday – Cadillac Diner

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Enthusiast cars outside the Cadillac Diner on Tretten

It's nice to have friends visit - especially nice when they arrive in a classic Cadillac Convertible with the roof down. We are located in Gudbrandsdalen. The base temperature is 14 degrees, but the sun is still shining. Today, many people drive with the top down.

 

Meeting place

We agreed to meet for lunch at the Cadillac Diner on Tretten in Gudbrandsdalen – a natural stop when driving a Cadillac Eldorado Convertible or another enthusiast vehicle. The cafe is decorated with memorabilia related to Cadillac and nostalgic American 50s. Outside is a Mack Cabover tow truck. Several other guests had arrived in cars with the roof down, including an Austin Healey 3000, Plymouth Special Deluxe and a Ford Mustang. Everyone had a great time in the fine autumn weather.

A break at the Cadillac Diner is mandatory for many in the car and motorcycle community. If you pop in for a bite to eat, you might see some great enthusiast cars outside.

No chain

Our table chose hamburger with fries, American pancakes and bacon - as well as Coke served in glass bottles. The hamburger was very good - just like my grandmother made them. It made a complete lunch meal for me. The Cadillac Diner reopened this summer. Brittirèn Bjerkestuen has gone into partnership with Stavsplassen SA and is thus carrying on his father's life's work, Trond Bjerkestuen, further.

Today, almost all the eateries along the road are franschise places. I prefer places that are independently run - like the Cadillac Diner.

It makes sense for the statue of the Liberty Bell on the outside.


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Cadillac road sign, the Statue of Liberty, the American flag and the Cadillac Eldorado

Pictures from Cadillac Diner

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Plymouth Special Deluxe

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Plymouth Special Deluxe Convertible with the top down

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USA nostalgia
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Interior in 40s style with chrome-plated radio/speaker in the dash

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Furnished in American 50's style

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Ford Mustang 289 V8 Convertible
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Mercedes-Benz 220S "Ponton"
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Atmosphere in the parking lot
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A nodding dog in a rear window also gives a high nostalgia factor

See

Cadillac Diner on Facebook - lots of nice photos

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Photo Sunday – Youngtimers
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Photo Sunday – Cars on display along the road
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Photo Sunday - Life in the artist street

Hobby vehicle day in Hof

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A hobby vehicle can be so many things. After seeing the selection that came to Hof Skole on Sunday, it could be anything from a restored Puch moped to "Gems" military truck.

 

Court meeting

Hof is located midway between Drammen and Grenland. For many, a nice car trip along nice country roads. And many people visited. There was a wide range both in type of vehicles and type of people. I saw families for several generations, and I think that many made the trip to Hobby Vehicle Day for social gatherings and picnics in the sun - and not least for the drive itself in a fun car that you don't normally drive.

So many vehicles!

It is ADCD – American Cars Drivers Club Vestfold - who is the organizer, but the meeting is open to all types of vehicles. Although there is no sorting or grouping of the vehicles, I see which cars appeal to different people. Cool youth cars with big engines and wide rims for the young. Nostalgia cars from the 60s and 70s for the elderly. Hotrods for car builders. Tractors and lorries for those who have proper sheds. Then there are cars that no one has seen before - which have been brought in from the US or another country just for fun. A high "fun factor" is perhaps the most important reason for acquiring a hobby vehicle?

Photo Sunday – Hobby vehicle day

At car meets like this, you can't bring all the cars. I have concentrated on walking closely so as not to bring too many people along. I have taken more photos than those published in this post. If you have a large screen, the images can be enlarged by clicking on them.


 
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1949 Nash 600

Nash 600

A fascinating car that was ahead of its time in many respects in 1949. Light, low and streamlined with closed wheel arches to get as many miles as possible out of the gas drops. It is equipped with an in-line six and three-speed gearbox.

 
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DKW Sonderklasse 3=6

DKW Sonderklasse 3=6

On the rear fender is written "3=6" to remind that DKW's 3-cylinder two-strokes offered the same advantages as 6-cylinder vehicles. A claim that can be debated. But the forerunner of today's Audi is a beautiful, well-constructed and solid car.

 

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Ford Mustang 5.0 V8 Madness Power

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Ford Mustang Madness Power

Madness Powered Mustang

Not only is it yellow - like "Lillegul" - but, like the film legend, has also visited Madness Power on Dal. Inside, I notice the same type of gear lever that rally drivers use when shifting sequentially. This is not only a Mustang for old nostalgics, but also a driving machine.

 
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1966 MG Midget 1100

MG Midget

Classic MGs are an example of how you can have fun without driving fast. You don't even have to break the speed limit. The Midget in the picture has BMC's 1100 engine. They could also be had with the 1275 engine or the 1500.

 
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Ford P7A 20M Tournament

Ford 20M P7A

We have written a lot about the Ford P7A (also called P7/1) here at Terje's cars, - but we have no photos of Turnier (also called station wagon). This is a 20M 2000 S with a 2-liter V6 engine. A notice on vegvesen.no reveals that this is also a Norwegian car.

 

Two desirable Fords

An Escort mk1 does not only appeal to old car nostalgics. Many car enthusiasts who were born long after the model went out of production have Escort on their wish lists. If you get your hands on a 1,1-litre driven by your grandmother, you can put in a new drivetrain based on a modern 2-litre which makes the light car very fun to drive. Next to the Escort was a Ford 17M (P7B) RS Hardtop with a 2000 V6. Note the registration number BC10001. The new numbers came in 1971 and it may be that Ford's head office in Kolbotn - where the BC plates belong - took the opportunity to get a special registration number. They didn't get BC10000. It went to an MGB.

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Ford Escort mk1 and Ford 17M RS

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1971 Ford 17M RS 2000 V6
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Ford Escort mk1

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1977 Volkswagen Golf L with contemporary first aid cushion

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1977 Volksagen Golf L
 

Golf 1 series 1

Golf 1s are becoming rare - especially the cars from the first series - before the facelift in 1979. The chrome strip that frames the grill and the chrome surrounds on the bumpers are clear signs that it is a Series 1.

 

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Opel GT

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The interior of the Opel GT

Opel GT

A street racer that caused a stir among everyone who had a taste for cars and driving. We have wrote about the Opel GT earlier but had no proper pictures. We got that now.

 

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1973 Mini

Mini Convertible

Classic Mini is, after all, very suitable as a hobby vehicle. There are several conversion kits for the Mini. We have seen a corresponding solution. Like the convertible, the Mini is an ideal hobby vehicle with a high "fun factor".

 
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1975 Ford Mustang 5.0 V8

Ford Mustang II

We have many pictures of Mustangs, but almost none of Mustangs generation 2. They are rare. The scaled-down model that arrived in 1974 was long considered a second-rate Mustang – primarily because it was introduced without the option of a V8 engine. Fortunately, it came later. The car in the picture is registered with a 5.0-litre V8 and is the first time it has been registered in Norway. I started driving when the Mustang II came on the market. It was that model which was mentioned in the car magazines at the time, - and consequently not to avoid that it became a car that I - and certainly more than me - dreamed of owning.

 
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1976 Pontiac Grand Prix 400 V8

Pontiac grand prix

The Pontiac Grand Prix also received mention in the car magazines around the latter half of the 70s. It was brought into Norway, but I don't remember by whom. Maybe Bergheim? A look in the vehicle register shows that several 76 and 77 models were first registered in Norway.

 
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Volvo 242 L

Volvo 242 L

The first Volvo models with the slanted nose are no longer a common sight. It is not particularly difficult to find earlier editions of the 140 series or later editions of the 240 from the 80s onwards. I know for sure that Swedish cars - both Volvo and Saab - rusted terribly around 1977 - usually in places where you normally never experience rust. The explanation could be that bad steel was used. It is therefore especially nice to see an early 240 again.

 
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Opel Commodore 2,8 GS/E

Opel Commodore 2,8 GS/E

This was the crème de la crème of Opel in the 70s. The cars with 2,8 liter sixes with electronic injection have become popular import cars to Norway - like the Ford 26M. These are relatively rare cars also on the continent.

 

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A stunningly beautiful early Ford V8 (Model 18). I thought it was lined up for a photoshoot, but the owner had had to make an emergency stop in the middle of the square.

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Full instrumentation in a great Ford A model.

Ford A, V8 and Hotrods

It is rare to see so many old Ford projects as here at Hoftreffet. Ford A original, or with flattop V8 or without fenders - or converted to hot rod. There are long traditions for rebuilding old Fords, so a hotrod project is to the highest degree car culture. I myself come from inner Vestfold and remember well that there were disused Ford A models all around the farms. It is probably these that have now been given new life as hobby vehicles.

 

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hobby vehicle day
Hobby vehicle day in Hof
A completely original Anglia

 

A completely original Anglia

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1961 Ford Anglia

A Ford Anglia at a roadside diner brings back many good memories. That's how it was before. The cars were more stylish and people liked to stop at a roadside cafe.

 

It is incredible to think that the beautiful car with continental kit is 60 years old. You don't have to be a car enthusiast to recognize a car with a slanted rear window. In 1960, car sales were deregulated. Those who could afford it could buy a public van or Anglia and take them around the country and beach on road trips.

Original car

I spotted the beautiful car in the square outside Furuly Diner at Hvittingfoss. It is a 1961 model in original "Savoy Black" color with red interior. The same English red color on fabric and synthetic leather as found in English sports cars from the same period. The owner, Steinar Granli, says that the car is original. Original paint with the exception of the front fenders, which have been replaced. The car has retained its original registration number from Gjøvik. This is not a pure show car that has been fully renovated and put in stock. Steinar's Anglia is only nicely treated, well maintained and is driven with. At the last, recent EU check, the mechanic remarked how nice the car was underneath and signed off with "No comments".

A modern Ford

The Ford 105E succeeded the popular 100E. The new Anglia that arrived in 1959 had an appearance that completely broke with its predecessor's rounded pontoon style. Line leaks with a streamlined front that ended in discreet fins at the back. Slanted rear window that should prevent rain and dirt from sticking - and provide more space in the back seat. New 1,0 liter OHV engine and 4-speed gearbox. Wheel suspension with MacPherson independent suspension at the front and leaf springs at the rear. This concept was carried over to the Cortina. The slightly larger Cortina got the same type of engine, only with a larger displacement - 1200 and 1500. The Kent engine was a good engine series that would follow Ford for several decades - which was therefore launched first in the Anglia.


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Line-up from Hobbybilen's Day at Hof School

Ford Anglia as a hobby car

There are three good reasons to recommend the Anglia as a hobby car. Firstly, it is possible to get a good copy without going into deep debt. Secondly, there are still parts to be obtained. If you acquire an Anglia, you must register in the Norwegian Ford Anglia Register. As well as meeting other Anglia owners you will find a forum to exchange experiences, solve problems and get parts.

Norwegian Ford Anglia Register - website
Norwegian Ford Anglia Register on Facebook

Steinar's Anglia can also be found at the events of the Larvik – Sandefjord Veteran Carriage Club. Here, in addition to old, fine used cars, you will also find truly exclusive jewels. See the photo galleries on the pages!

Larvik – Sandefjord Veteran car club – website
Larvik – Sandefjord Veteran car club on Facebook

Let me also mention the third reason why the Anglia is suitable as a hobby car:

Even by today's standards, they are easy to drive and keep up with traffic. Thrives best on old country roads.

Facts about the car

1961 Ford 105E Anglia Deluxe
In production: 1959 – 1967
Place of manufacture: Dagenham, UK
Length, width, height: 390 x 146 x 140 cm
Wheelbase: 230 cm
Net weight without driver: 737 kg
Engine: 997 ccm four-cylinder OHV "Kent"
39 HP at 5000 rpm
69 Nm at 2700 revolutions
4-speed gearbox
Rear wheel drive
Front suspension: Independent MacPherson
Rear suspension: Rigid rear axle, leaf springs
Brakes: Hydraulic, drums front and rear
Tires: 165/70R13 T, Point S Summerstar 3
0-100: 30 seconds
Top speed: 117 km/h
Source: Vegvesen.no, Automobil-catalog.com


 

Pictures of Ford Anglia

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Stylish and simple interior

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At Furuly Spiseri at Hvittingfoss
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Great - and completely original color combination

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The instruments

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Original used car that can be seen along fine Vestfold roads

See

100e
Ford E100 Anglia and Prefect
ford 105e
Ford 105E Anglia
cortina mk1
Ford Cortina mk1
Ford Consul 315

 

Cadillac to the mountains

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Cadillac Eldorado Convertible at Ringebufjellet

It is iconic. Not only does it represent American automotive philosophy at its peak. Generation 9 was also to be the last American convertible for many years from GM.

 

Cadillac Eldorado Convertible

New US safety requirements put an end to US-made convertibles. Officially, GM claimed that production was no longer profitable. Those who still wanted to drive a soft-top had to either choose expensive foreign cars – such as the Mercedes-Benz SL – or keep the Cadillac. Many chose the latter. It may have contributed to the fact that so many of the cars still exist.

Another reason why the cars have survived is that they belonged to the last generation of full-size Eldorado - built according to the principle "bigger is better". Subsequent models were scaled down. Sensible, seen in today's eyes. Although the Cadillac Eldorado Convertible is almost 5,7 meters long and weighs 2,5 tonnes, it does not offer more interior space than a normal, intimate 2-door car. And even on quiet country roads, it smoothly drinks 2 liters of leaded super petrol per mile.

But it has something that today's cars don't.


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The Cadillac feeling

We met Tov Westby at Skjerdingen Høyfjellshotell which lies between Atna and Ringebu. The Cadillac was parked in the shade outside the hotel. Long and wide - low and surprising bibs - even with the canopy up. We lowered the canopy to head west along the beautiful Friisvegen. The soft leather seats are soft to the touch and hug the body in a comfortable way. You sit very much "in" the seats - not "on".

In a few days, Friisvegen will get new asphalt east of Skjerdingen. This stretch of road is currently full of potholes and bumps. We noticed them well when we arrived in our Tesla Model 3. In the Cadillac, on the other hand, we didn't notice anything about the unevenness. Nor did we hear any rattling and banging from the undercarriage. Deep in the white leather seats, it literally felt like floating on a white cloud. An incredible comfort considering that the car is actually about 44 years old.


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This ornament makes the mountain even more beautiful

Making a statement

Tov steered the Cadillac safely along the mountain road. Where it was narrow, he politely stopped to make way for oncoming motorhome tourists. On a mountain tour in an open Cadillac, you are greeted by smiles and happy greetings. A Cadillac convertible has always been a symbol of wealth and individualism. A car for those who have come to a lot of money. There are lists of super celebrities who have owned Cadillacs, but no one seems to have owned a late Eldorado Convertible. It is said that Elvis Presley gave away over 200 Cadillacs to people who meant something to him. Among these there are also a couple of Eldorado (hardtop). He reportedly bought a 1974 model to give to his karate teacher at the time.

With the canopy down

Driving an open Cadillac can be compared to being out on a boat. There is, of course, quite a bit of wind, but the voices between the back seat and the front seat still carried surprisingly well. We could carry on conversations in a normal voice. In the front seats behind the "wind screen" there was no intrusive wind, but in the back seat where my wife sat, it was more windy - just like in a boat. Perhaps a reason why many people wear caps and hoods when driving with the canopy down? The big V8 was clearly audible when the throttle was applied, but the muffled hum was only a pleasure for the ears. The enormous torque in the eight rarely creates a need to step hard on the gas.


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Friisvegen offers beautiful scenery - especially with the canopy down.

Visual upgrades

Tov's Cadillac is not entirely original in appearance. According to the VIN number, the car is a Convertible with a 500 engine, produced as a 1974 model. But the front probably originates from a newer model, probably a 1978 Cadillac Eldorado (with fixed roof). GM changed the front of its models almost every year. The 1974 model had a different pattern in the grille, different headlights and turn signals that folded around the sides. The rear light arrangement may also originate from a newer model. At the risk of being branded a squeamish nostalgic, I would like to add that the upgrades suit the car very well and make it a very special specimen.

Luxury in 1974

In 1974, the Cadillac Eldorado Convertible was one of the most expensive and luxurious cars on the market. None of the cars with Norwegian plates were bought new in Norway. If so, they would probably have to be special ordered, if at all possible. As mentioned, the luxury lay in the Cadillac feeling. The 1974 model also got a new dashboard which is slightly curved. The upper part has an "information band" where all the warning lights are gathered. Power antenna and radio were standard equipment. Likewise, central locking, power steering with variable steering ratio and illuminated ashtrays. Already in the 50s - long before computer electronics - Cadillac developed solutions such as automatic dimming of the main lights, seat adjustment with memory and cruise control.

Tov demonstrated the solution for the remote-controlled trunk opener. There is a yellow button that comes into view when you open the glove compartment. The lock opens and closes with the help of an electric motor - which sounds quite clearly. The same solution could just as well have been in a 50s Cadillac. Everything you put on in the car seems solid. Handles and switches are made of metal. The doors open and close with loud metallic sounds of "clunk and clang". This is part of the charm of American cars - in contrast to today's cars with extensive use of plastic and cardboard.


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Nearly 5,7 meters long. Chrome and fender skirts testify to a car from when American car production was at its peak.

Lunch at Skjerdingen

We went back to Skjerdingen Høyfjellshotell to eat lunch. It was nice to sit outside with a view over the mountain home. Lightly smoked mountain trout with sour cream and cucumber salad can certainly be recommended. If you take a small detour up Friisvegen between Atna and Ringebu, it is not impossible that you will see the red Cadillac parked outside. The owner is associated with the hotel and the Cadillac can be used for special occasions, preferably accompanied by Champagne.

 

 

"Never too early for Champagne?"


 

Facts 1974 Cadillac Eldorado Convertible

Weights and Measures
Length, width, height: 569 / 203 / 137 cm
Wheelbase: 328 cm
Net weight: 2385 kg (without driver)
Number of seats: 5

Drivetrain
Engine: 500 V8 OHV 8,2 liter longitudinal front mounted
Power: 214 HP at 3800 revs
Torque: 515 Nm at 2000 revolutions
Gearbox: 3-speed automatic Turbo Hydra-Matic
Front wheel drive.

Undercarriage
Front suspension: Torsion strut.
Rear suspension: 4-link wishbones with coil springs. Air-filled shock absorbers with automatic rear height adjustment. New for the 1974 model was a (new) rear stabilizer bar.
2 circuit brake system.
Front brakes: Ventilated discs
Rear brakes: Drums

Performances
Top speed: 193 km/h

About the car
Place of manufacture: Detroit, USA*
Owner: Tov Westby
Model: 1974*
Source: *Checked against the car's VIN number


Pictures

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Mood picture on the mountain from the day before. Photo: Tov Westby

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In the back seat you get more wind in your hair

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Rope behind the wheel

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New color matched dashboard in 1974
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Everyone knows a Cadillac Convertible when they see one
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On the road with the canopy up..

 

See

Cadillac El Dorado 9

People's wagons on the move

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Lined up before departure

It was the Veteran VW club in Røyken, Asker and Bærum that organized a drive for pre-registered members. The trip started at Sætre and went around Hurum.

 

Still used cars

Veteran VW club is for people's cars that are 30 years or older, i.e. proper vintage cars according to the old system. But when you see a people's car, you don't always think of a vintage car - at least not if you're a bit older yourself. In my neighborhood there are a couple of Volkswagen 1300s in daily use. They are used cars, not for decoration. When several people's cars are gathered, as at Sætre before departure, one can hardly avoid thinking that many of these cars could have functioned perfectly in daily use. If you place a beige Volkswagen 1300 in an ordinary car park, it will not attract attention. It should. After all, it is over 50 years old.

Is it really a veteran?

It is special for Volkswagen that many models are actually older than one would think. If we draw the line for veteran at 30 years, cars such as the T3 (Caravelle and Transporter) fall under the term, although they actually look newer, especially in Caravelle design. Until next year, early editions of the T4 Caravelle and Transporter will be able to join the procession as "veteran cars". Likewise the Golf III.

Type-3 endangered?

There is no danger of the public transport bubble disappearing. Not only was it very widespread, but it gained cult status early on. As you know, Volkswagen's Type-3 was supposed to replace the bubble. It came as fastback, notchback and variant. Today it undoubtedly has cult status, but it may seem that it took longer than the bubble. Considering how many Volkswagen 1500 Variants were sold in Norway in the 1960s and 70s, it is strange that so few are left - compared to the folkcar bobla. The explanation may be that the Volkswagen (Type-3) 1500 was used to a greater extent as a family car - and was driven in tatters, while many of the contemporary bubbles were bought by grandparents and old aunts. Maybe they are still simmering around?

The pictures are from the attendance area at Sætre. Further in the post is a YouTube clip from the start of the excursion.

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Oval window Volkswagen
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1957 or 1958 Volkswagen with sunroof, large rear window and direction arrow. In the background a T2 Camper.

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Luggage rack and USA bumper

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Volkswagen 1500 in the foreground. Volkswagen 1300 next to it.

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Volkswagen (Type 151) Kamann Cabriolet


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Buses and pickups. TV T3 Caravelle. In the middle is T1 with 11 windows. Th Single cabin

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Volkswagen 1300

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Volkswagen 1200 in the foreground


17-May ripple in Re

At precisely 10 o'clock, cars from Re Motorklubb were ready to embark on a 3-hour journey through the surrounding villages. The event was approved by the police and Tønsberg municipality. The first stop was the health center nearby, then it was towards Ramnes, over towards Linnestad, up to Revetal again and on to Undrumsdal and Våle. When it's raining, it may not be as tempting to take the nice car out. But all the donnings seemed to cope well with the weather.
 
Re motor club consists of over 200 owners of hobby vehicles. This year, as last year, they go around the villages to make 17 May more pleasant for young and old.
 
The picture gallery contains 19 pictures. They may need a few seconds to download. The editors have several photos that have not been published.

 
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Re motor club before departure
The oldest first. Here a T-Ford.
A-Ford. Who is more natural to follow a T-Ford?
Rare car. 1930 Marquette 4 door. Marquette was a brand that had its origins in Buick, right?
Early English Ford, Ford Model Y from 1934.
One of the many nice folk wagons. Those of us who have lived for a few years remember folk wagons as a well-known feature of May 17 celebrations.
Flag-decorated May 17 bubble.
Ford Anglia 100E.
Ford Anglia 105E.
Austin A40.
Mercedes Benz 220S
Volvo PV Favorit B18
Nice Volvos
Volvo PV 544
Ford Escort mk1
Great Opel Kadett City in a color many chose in the 70s.
Citroen 2CV6
Tough Tempo with flakes in fantastic fine condition.
Finally a bubble that has decorated itself properly.
 

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Opel Astra F becomes an oldtimer

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Opel Astra F – the world's best-selling Opel model

The world's best-selling Opel turns 30 this year. In the period 1991 to 1997, an incredible 4,13 million Astras were sold. No other Opel model has been more popular - ever.

It is referred to as the Astra F despite being the first model with the Astra name. The model series began under the name "Kadett" as far back as the 30s. The model designations with letters did not begin until the 60s when the Kadett A appeared in 1962. The name "Kadett" was retained until 1991 when Opel chose to replace the outgoing Kadett E with the Astra F.

The story of Astra began with Kadett D

The Opel Kadett D appeared as a 1980 model. It was the first Kadett with a transverse engine with front-wheel drive and 3/5 door hatchback as standard. This was necessary for Opel to be able to compete with the Volkswagen Golf. After that, Golf and Kadett/Astra have figured at the top of the sales lists. When the Golf II arrived as a 1984 model, the Kadett E was launched. Similarly, in 1991 when the Golf III appeared, the new Astra F hit the market just a couple of months later. It is still like that.

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Opel Kadett D

The Eternal Two

In Norway, sales figures for the Golf have always been higher than the competitor from Opel. The Opel Kadett E was no worse car than the Golf II. They were different in several areas, but still very equal. The same can be said about the Astra F in relation to the Golf III. Golf and Astra have never been more equal. Nevertheless, the Golf retained the upper hand on the sales charts.

Safer

One of Astra's big advantages compared to its predecessor Kadett E and other contemporary competitors was high passive safety. From the outset, the Astra came with belt tensioners as standard. From 1993, you could choose an airbag on the driver's side as an option. From 1994, airbags on both front sides came as standard. Neck pillows in the back seat were also standard. The seats had a rail that prevented people from sliding under the belts in the event of a collision. 30 years ago, steel beams in the doors were a major safety advantage. Astra got 2 steel beams in each door.

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Standard interior in the 1992 model without airbag

Bigger

By moving the A-pillars further forward, the Astra gained both a more spacious feeling and better space than its predecessor. The Astra showed that cars in the compact class were suitable as full-fledged family cars. The Astra estate rivaled mid-range models in terms of space despite being only 4,28 meters long.

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Opel Astra F Caravan after facelift

More recyclable

The Opel Kadett E (1984-1991) was an early adopter of using recyclable materials in the interior and exterior plastic – including in the bumpers. The disadvantages were that part of the interior could feel like papier-mâché and that the exterior plastic became discolored after a short time. The Opel Astra was to be even more recyclable. Fortunately, the interior felt more solid than in its predecessor. In the early 1990s, recyclability was one of the most important arguments for wooing environmentally conscious customers.

Astra F compared to Kadett E

terjes carsI remember well my first drive with the Opel Astra. It was a test drive of a new station wagon with a 1,6 liter engine. I liked the feeling of a solid car - a kind of security feeling. It seemed heavier than the Kadett (E) I had previously owned. The soundscape seemed harsh during acceleration, and the drivetrain sent vibrations into the cabin. Compared to the Kadett E and Nissan Sunny - which I drove at the time - the steering in the Astra seemed lifeless. Plus for power steering. My conclusion was that this was no vehicle for "keen drivers". Nevertheless, we ordered a black metallic Astra 1,6 sedan with the "Young" equipment package. It consisted of a manual sunroof, upgraded seat covers, green stripes and separate wheel covers. With a new house and a family increase on the way, space and safety became decisive. Besides, it was a very beautiful car. More beautiful than the Golf III. Like the Opel, I felt that the Volkswagen Golf III had become heavier, less dynamic and less fun to drive than its predecessor the Golf II.

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My Opel Kadett E new in 1985. Ran for almost 30 years before it was scrapped.

Veteran status?

At German car exchanges, Astra Fs have started to be advertised as collectors' cars. In Germany, cars first registered in 1991 can be registered as "vintage cars" with an "H" at the back of the plate. It provides tax and insurance benefits. Like other volume models, it may take time before the Astra F becomes a collector's car. If you post a rust-free Astra with low mileage today, you run the risk of it being bought as a used car. It is difficult to imagine the Astra F as worthy of preservation. At the same time, dealers of classic cars all over the world are now buying well-maintained examples of the Golf III. It has already become a classic.

Once again, it looks like the Astra will be a runner-up. But another Opel model is celebrating its 30th anniversary this year. It's Opel Calibra. Undoubtedly a classic.

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Low CO value 0,30 (source: FavCars.com)

Facts about the Opel Astra F

About the model
Year of production: 1991-1996
Model year: 1992-1997
Place of production (Norwegian cars): Bochum, Germany
Facelift: 1994 with new grill and rear, painted bumpers and upgraded Ecotec engines. Airbag driver and passenger side standard.
Vauxhall: In Storbitannia, the name "Astra" was already used from 1980 when cars with front-wheel drive were introduced. The predecessor to British Astras was the Vauxhall Viva. The Astras for the British market are manufactured at Ellesmere Port near Liverpool.

Measurements and dimensions
Length height width
– 3/5 doors: 405 x 169 x 141 cm
– Sedan: 424 x 169 x 141 cm
– Station wagon w/roof rails: 428 x 169 x 153 cm
Wheelbase: 252 cm
Luggage compartment
– 3/5 doors: 360 litres
– Saloon: 500 litres
– Station wagon: 500 litres

Motorisation/performance
1,4 Ecotec 90 HP
– Top speed: 178 km/h
– 0-100: 13 seconds
1,6 Ecotec 101 HP
– Top speed: 190 km/h
– 0-100: 11,5 seconds
1,8 Ecotec 116 HP
– Top speed: 200 km/h
– 0-100: 9,5 seconds


Source: ultimatespecs.com

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Opel Astra 1,4 Turbo
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Opel Astra J
Kadett B
Opel Kadett B

 

5 cars – 5 stories

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When I have taken photos from car meets and exhibitions, I want to show several cars of the same model before they are published. Then it becomes more legitimate to write a story about models not knowing. But what do you do when you've only managed to take one picture? Here are 5 cars from carspotting that I haven't found a match for.

 

Ferrari Testarossa

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Ferrari Testarossa

The Ferrari, which was produced between 1984 and 1996, became super popular. "All" royalty and celebrities wanted a Testarossa.

Miami Vice

There was a wait of several years. Many got to know the car through the TV series Miami Vice. Ferrari had donated two cars to the production company. They were in black metallic with a cream colored interior, but were repainted because white probably suited Don Johnson better. The last two sales went for 175 and 000 dollars respectively.

Here is one that was for sale but has now unfortunately been sold.
Barrett-Jackson: Miami Vice Car

Celebrity car

Several celebrities have owned - or own a Testarossa. Elton John is said to have received one from the record company MCA Records. It was red with a "tan" interior. It is said that Elton John regularly drives all his cars. Also the Testarossa which was eventually auctioned off - and which has probably been auctioned off at least once more later. Other celebrities behind the wheel of the Testarossa are Mick Jagger, Miles Davis, Michael Jordan, Mike Tyson, Rod Stewart, OJ Simpson, Tom Selleck, MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice.

Facts about the Ferrari Testarossa

Engine: 4,9 litres, 12 cylinders (boxer), 48 valves, naturally aspirated, dry sump, 390 HP at 6300 revs, 490 Nm at 4500 revs. 0-100 in 5,8 seconds.

About the pictures

The main picture was taken near the old control tower at Fornebu on the occasion of one of the Norwegian Sportscar Club's spring rallies at Fornebu. The bonus picture is taken of the traffic on the E18 exiting at Holtet in Bærum. Car spotting and car spotting.

 
 
 
 
 
 

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Lotus spirit

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Lotus Spirit Turbo

It is hard to imagine that the Lotus Esprit, the cool James Bond car, has become a proper old car.

There is no getting away from the truth. Beneath the handmade fiberglass bodywork hides one old car, technologically low-tech by today's standards. I heard one owner state that "you don't buy an Esprit because of performance - you buy it because it's an Esprit".

Engines

The Esprit model was produced in several series from 1976 to 2004. The first cars were equipped with mid-mounted 2,2-liter inline-four engines developed by Lotus itself. Performance was a modest 160 HP. The Esprit was never a supercar until 1980 when it got a turbo and 210 HP. Eventually, Lotus managed to extract 300 HP from the turbo engine. In 1996 – twenty years after its introduction – the Esprit got V8 engines. The twin-turbo engine produced 350 horses and lifted the Esprit into the supercar class.

Heavy on the steering. Poor turning radius. Low stance and very direct contact with the road. "Everything" is communicated to the driver. This is a car that takes some getting used to.

The statements come from car testers who viewed the Esprit with today's eyes. One thing everyone agrees on. The interior. Everything is covered in genuine leather - handmade English quality - designed like a "man-cave". It is not only comfortable, but gives a real good feeling.

Source: Supercars.net Lotus Esprit

About the picture

The picture was taken at one of the Norsk Sportsvogn Klubb's spring rallies in Fornebu. It is a Turbo Esprit with an estimated 210 HP. Car spotting.


 

BMW 503

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BMW 503 Coupé Series II – 134 produced

Only 413 of this BMW model were produced. There should be one other BMW of the same model somewhere in Norway, but the probability of meeting any of them on the road is very small.

A beautiful baroque angel

BMW's distinctive 50s models 501 and 502 were colloquially called baroque angels. First appearing as a 503 model, the 1956 Coupé model was a 2-door, 2+2-seater GT model that was offered with only one engine option. The engine was taken from the BMW 502. 3,2 liter V8, 2 carburettors, 140 HP and 4-speed manual gearbox. There is no doubt that under the beautiful costume was a baroque angel - a very beautiful baroque angel.

Little profitable

Production continued from 1956 to March 1959. Considering the gorgeous design and motorization, the model could certainly have been produced well into the 60s. But BMW stopped production due to poor profitability. A total of 413 cars were produced. Of these, 270 were Coupés with a fixed roof and 143 cabriolets with electric raising and lowering of the canopy.

Expensive car

A simple search on mobile.de after BMW 503 tells about prices between 200 - 250 euros for coupés and 000 - 400 euros for cabriolets. There are several factors that dictate a high price - few copies, built as a quality car, beautiful and lavish for its time. It's a wonder these cars didn't do better. The BMWs could not keep up with the American cars of the time in terms of chrome and external dimensions - but neither could the Mercedes-Benz SL. Despite that, the SL sold well in the US in the 500s.

About the picture

The picture was taken at one of the Norsk Sportsvogn Klubb's spring rallies in Fornebu. The car is a Series II Coupé with a fixed roof – a variant of which only 134 were produced. Car spotting.


 

Alfa Romeo Giulietta Spider

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Alfa Romeo Giulietta

It was typically Italian to make a model with many bodies. The Alfa Romeo Giulietta was initially a compact family car, but could also be delivered with special bodies.

The Giulietta Spider follows a genuinely minimalist roadster concept. Under the hood is a 1,3-liter aluminum engine with wet cylinder walls, DOHC and single Solex carburettor (Normale) or twin Weber (Veloce). It produced 80 HP in the Normale and 90 HP in the Veloce version – enough to give a lot of driving pleasure in a car that weighs only 860 kg.

Lived on as the Giulia Spider

The Giulietta range (2- and 4-door) was produced from 1954 to 1965, but the Giulietta Spider was called Giulia Spider when Alfa Romeo started producing the legendary Giulia in 1962. The "New" Giulia Spider got a 1,6 liter engine and an extra air intake on the hood. Otherwise, there were few visual changes between the two models.

Prices

The Giulietta Spider is a real classic, which is also reflected in the prices. They are between NOK 500 and one million mobile.de.

About the pictures

The white Spider is one of the last cars produced as a Giulietta. It is a "tipo 101.03" - as the registration number indicates. The photo was taken at one of the Norsk Sportsvogn Klubb's spring rallies in Fornebu. Car spotting.

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The dashboard – Alfa Romeo Giulietta

 

Opel Kapitän

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Opel Kapitän P2

1959 was a good year. Lolita topped the charts with "Seemann". Mercedes-Benz launched a brand new model and Opel got a new Kaptein.

It has been a long time since an Opel could measure up to a Mercedes. It could do that in 1959 when both came with completely new models. Mercedes' new W110 and W111 – the so-called "find Mercedes" was perhaps the best mass-produced car of its time. The year before, Opel had launched a brand new Opel Kaptein with large fins and panoramic windows at the front and rear. The P1 looked like an American, but was too strong a diet for sane Europeans. Many complained about poor visibility through the panoramic windows and tight access to the back seat because the rear window actually curved into the door opening. It sold so poorly that the management at Opel began to design a new Kaptein – the P2 – which came already the following year in 1959.

Most beautiful Opel ever

It was no secret that the P2 was designed on the same platform as the P1. The two cars had the same wheelbase, while the new one was a little wider, a little longer – and a little less American. The new Opel Kaptein was not only beautiful – it also sold better than all the Kapteins both before and after.

Facts Opel Kapitän P2

Production time: 1959-1963
Engine: 2,6 liter inline six.
90 HP at 4100 rpm
191 Nm at 1900 revolutions
Front suspension: Double A-arms
Rear: Rigid rear axle with leaf springs
Brakes: Drums
0-100: 16 seconds
Top speed: 150 km/h
Consumption: 1,21 litres/mile
Source: Auto Zeitiung test of Mercedes 220SE against Opel Kapitän

The picture was taken in the parking lot at the Bendix meeting at the Bendix house (old Lunner Dairy). Car spotting.

 

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