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Toyota Proace Electric 50 kwh with comfort factor

toyota proace electric
New Toyota Proace Electric

The advantages of electric vans are several. The climate discount from ENOVA's Zero Emission Fund is a cash subsidy of up to NOK 50 if you buy an electric vehicle in business. You save tolls. In Oslo, you can park for free in streets with resident parking. Not only do you save money - you don't have to argue with overzealous representatives from the City Environment Agency when things need to be picked up or delivered.

 

Not just a niche

Electric vans have long been niche vehicles for local driving in the largest cities. Now the demand has increased, without the big car brands being able to offer cars of sufficient size and range. This has made room for new car brands from China that have gained a good foothold. The new Toyota Proace Electric will therefore face competitors called BYD T3 50 kwh and Maxus e-Delivery 3 52,5 kwh, as well as the slightly smaller box van Nissan e-NV200 40 kwh.
 

mazda camper
Pleasant craft in excellent weather

A nice day

I smile when I think of the song "En fin dag" by Prima Vera. Of all the days in April, I had chosen a day with something resembling a blizzard! But it was actually quite alright to work and cruise around with a Proace Electric - even on a day like this. And if you are in a good mood yourself, you only meet nice people. I don't just want to highlight the well-being factor, but also the environmental factor. Whether you like it or not, Oslo is currently undergoing a small environmental revolution. What fits better then "our" electric van with an advertisement for Hertz Bilpool on the side. The car-sharing company has placed a couple of brand new Toyota Proace Electrics in Oslo - in addition to all its regular Proaces.
 

toyota proace electric
Rotatable writing board between the seats

French and a little Belgian?

Proace is, as most people know, not a pure Toyota product. It is identical to the Citroen Jumpy, Peugeot Expert and Opel Vivaro. The only difference is the front grill and logo. The Proace is manufactured at the Fiat factory Sevel in France just above the border with Belgium. The Toyota's VIN number states oddly enough Belgium as country of production. The collaboration with PSA means that the Proace Electric shares the battery pack and engine with models such as the Citroen ë-C4. Peugeot e-208, e-2008, Opel Corsa-e and new Mokka-e. This drive unit is set to become a big seller in Europe.

Powers and reach

In the small Peugeot 208, you can get a range of up to 340 km on mixed driving according to WLTP. In the much larger Toyota Proace Electric, the corresponding range is 219 km with the same battery pack. Although the range is far less than that of passenger cars, it is still on par with the competition. Even with a load of approximately 300 kg, 136 HP feels fully sufficient - at least as good as what the 2-litre diesel engine with 122 HP delivers. The electric motor has more horsepower, but lower torque than the diesel engine. The advantage of the electric version is that the torque is constant from the start.
 

toyota proace electric
Looks just like the other Proaces

Electric versus diesel

If you come from a Proace diesel to the Electric variant, there are no noticeable differences. The electric car's gear lever is shaped like a slide switch with a separate button for "P" as well as a separate button for more powerful recuperative braking. The car is not designed for so-called "one-pedal driving", but provides a weak - and just right - recovery of energy when you let off the gas. On the instrument panel you will also find an eco-meter instead of a rev counter and separate hands for each battery capacity and a separate eco-meter for the air conditioning. There you can see what effect air conditioning, heat, cold, heating wires and fans have on battery consumption. This is useful if you need to extend the range.

Can create range anxiety

There are a couple of features of the Proace Electric that you should be aware of. Even if you have full control over the range, you can be intimidated by the instrument panel - especially the number indicating the remaining range. If you stand in a queue with the air conditioning on - or make a number of stops along the way, the calculated remaining kilometers can plummet because the computer thinks you should stand still with the air conditioning on for the rest of the day. Even if you have to take the number with a pinch of salt, it is probably not a bad idea to switch off "power thieves", especially in queues. Check the eco-meter for climate energy.
 

toyota proace electric
Notice the separate eco-meter for climate energy at the top left.

Real range

Real range was this time calculated under unfavorable conditions. In my own eyes, I am an "expert" in getting the most kilometers possible out of any car. But in cold, wet conditions with slush on the road in several places - as well as queuing and waiting, my calculated range ended up being 160 real kilometres. It is about the same as I got out of the Nissan e-NV200 with a 40 kwh battery in cold and winter conditions. The combination of motorways, heavy loads, trailers (up to 1000 kg) and winter can further reduce the range. Many will probably be best served by choosing a larger battery pack.

On the road

"Our" car was of the L1H1 type, which in van language means "medium length and height". The electric car weighs 232 kg more than the equivalent model with a 2-litre diesel engine. On the country road, the Proace Electric is stable and comfortable, even in the bends. On vertical bumps - bumps and dumps - the damping could have been better. I also noted that the steering was light - and required more travel on the steering wheel than I'm used to. Noise level and seating comfort were otherwise very good. With cup holders and a fold-down work table in the middle seat, the well-being factor is high.
 

toyota proace electric
Gear lever "by wire" and drive mode selector

Conclusion

It is no secret that the Toyota Proace is the same car as the vans from PSA (Peugeot, Citroen and Opel). The only differences are that they are manufactured at different factories and sold through different retail chains. The cars are so similar that you don't have to choose car brand. Find the best one the retailer!
 
We have borrowed the Toyota Proace several times in the past with diesel. Proace is a good choice regardless of whether you choose diesel or battery. Electric vehicles, however, offer so many advantages that it would be unwise to choose anything else - but choose as large a battery as possible. The battery pack of 50 kwh can be scarce in bad conditions. The Toyota Proace with 75 kwh will probably be a better choice for most people. It will also be better equipped to face the competition from new electric vans. The Ford e-Transit with a 76 kwh battery will come next year.
 

If you need a van, there is in any case no reason not to drive electric.

 

Facts Toyota Proace Electric 50 kwh

Weights and Measures
External dimensions - L, W, H: 496 x 192 x 190 cm
Wheelbase: 328 cm
Cargo space: 5,8 cubic metres
Net weight: 1874 kg (without driver)
Payload: 926 kg
Number of seats: 3
Max trailer weight w/brake: 1000 kg
- without brake: 750 kg

Drivetrain
Battery pack: 50 Kwh
Engine: Electric, located at the front
Power: 136 HP
Torque: 260 Nm
Gearbox: Stepless.
Front wheel drive.

Performances
Top speed: 130 km/h
0-100: 12,1 seconds

Range
WLTP: 219 km (combined)
Calculated based on our trips: 160 km

Cargo
Contacts: Type 2 and CSS

Tires
Dimensjon: 215/65R16 109/107R
Type: Spikeless winter
Brand: VanContact Viking

Price
L1H1 Comfort: NOK 404
ENOVA support: NOK 19

About the car
Place of manufacture: Valenciennes, France
Owner: Hertz Car pool
Rented via hertzbilpool.no
Model: 2021
Mileage: 217
Km driven: 64
Source: Toyota.no

toyota proace electric
The hold

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Nissan e-NV200 40 Kwt

 

Hertz Car Pool, Rent or Neighbour's car?

car sharing
Order, unlock – and drive!

Car sharing

car sharingCar sharing can replace your own car, - or car number two or three, if you want. Many are reluctant to take the step - sell their own car and use a rental car. A threshold is required to feel comfortable in a rental car. It is a matter of habit. The more often you rent, the more familiar you become with the scheme. But one thing is very important: If car sharing is to work in practice, it must be as easy to order a car as it is to buy a ticket on the Ruter app. Then the only difference between car sharing and your own car is that you collect the car from another garage - not your own.

Two fives and a three

There are several players in car sharing. New technology makes it possible to allocate vehicles dynamically - while on the move. Terje's cars has tested the three largest car sharing schemes in the Oslo area, Hertz BilPool, Hyre and Nabobil. Two of the companies got a dice roll of five. The third got a three. It is the technology that separates them.

Plus for spontaneity - minus for car washing

The test emphasizes several factors. What the car park is like, how easy it is to order, how easy it is to pick up and return a car, and finally prices and excess. In practice, it is not only price and availability that determine the choice of a car sharing company. Something we ourselves place a lot of emphasis on is opportunities to book and pick up a free car spontaneously. Another important point is washing. Nobody washes their car after every trip, - and the paint doesn't benefit from it, either.

  Hertz Car Pool Rent Neighbor car
Car park car sharing car sharing car sharing
-new cars 6 5 2
-diversity 6 5 6
-state 4 5 4
-prevalence 4 3 6
Order car sharing car sharing car sharing
- search 5 6 2
-simplicity 5 6 1
-spontaneity 6 6 0
Pick up car car sharing car sharing car sharing
-simplicity 5 6 3
-reliable 4 5 3
-damage control 4 3 5
Return car car sharing car sharing car sharing
-simplicity 6 5 3
- refueling 4 6 1
-washing 6 3 0
Price
- hourly rent 6 6 2
- daily rent 1 6 6
-weekend rental 5 3 3
- weekly rent 0 2 5
Insurance
-price 4 3 3
Total (81) (84) (55)

 

The car park

Hertz Car Pool
Hertz BilPool has placed cars in the entire StorOslo area and operates van rental at all IKEA stores in Norway. There is a good variety of brands and types of cars. They are rarely older than 1,5 years and are regularly looked after by the landlord.
Rent
Hyre originates from the Møller Group. Therefore, the car fleet mostly consists of cars from the Volkswagen group, either placed out of Møller or by their private customers. Most of the cars are new, while others, privately owned cars, can be up to 5 years old. Rental cars are only located within Oslo's borders.
Neighbor car
The cars offered through Nabobil are mainly private cars, and thus form an average of the Norwegian car fleet. There are a striking number of older cars. If you want to rent a – say, ten-year-old car – you can read previous renters' recommendations to find out what condition the car is actually in. Nabobil is established all over the country.

 

Order

Hertz Car Pool
You can search for available cars both on the website and via the app. We prefer the website because the app did not cover all the rental locations for a while. The homepage works well. It is easy to find available cars. The car can be collected immediately after ordering. Pictures show make/model only - not the actual car.
Rent
You can only order via Hyre's app. It works fine. It is easy to find a free car on the map. The car is displayed on the map in real time. When it appears, it is in place. There is a separate "Drive now" function where you can find cars that are available at the moment and how long they can be rented. The app shows a picture of the car you can actually rent and how much electricity or fuel it has.
Neighbor car
Bookings are made via the website or app, and consist of chat messages between the renter and car owner. The entire ordering system is static, time-consuming and old-fashioned. In practice, it also works very poorly. Some car owners are slow to respond. Often the car is not available for booking, even if it is shown as available - or even "guaranteed available". Furthermore, the stated address often does not coincide with the car's home address. The concept is not suitable for ordering a car for immediate use.

 

Pick up car

Hertz Car Pool
You receive an SMS from Hertz BilPool five minutes before the car can be collected. It is intended that the car should be at the address given, but you are assured that the previous owner has returned in time and placed the car in the correct place. The car is unlocked with the membership card or by sending a reply to the received SMS. Inside the car, there is a damage form where you can see which damages have already been registered. If you discover damages beyond those noted on the form, you must call before starting the car, or you may be held responsible. The problem with the form is that it is sloppily filled in and difficult to see the notes. An online solution could have been created for this.
Rent
The map in the app shows where the car actually is at the moment, and how much electricity/fuel it has. You run the App function "Unlock" when the car is collected. All communication between you and the car takes place via Bluetooth. Sometimes you have to try several times. There is no claim form. You must secure photos of the car's condition before and after by taking and uploading photos via the app.
Neighbor car
Nabobil also offers an app solution for "taking over without a key" where you can pick up and return a car without a personal meeting between seller and buyer. This app works well. The problem is that only very few car owners have chosen to install the system in the car. Without "keyless access", you are left to arrange a meeting with the landlord. Some landlords use key storage in a key box that is opened with a code, or key storage with the nearest Seven student.

 

Return car

Hertz Car Pool
Returning the car happens very quickly. You put the key back in the glove compartment and lock the car with the membership card - or wait until it locks itself. Refueling is only needed when there is less than half a tank. If you then fail to refuel, a fee of NOK 500 is incurred. Refueling takes place using the petrol card which is always in the car. You don't need to wash - just take your things with you and shake or brush the mats.
Rent
A separate function in the app takes you through locking the car and taking pictures to document the condition when you delivered it. You don't need to think before you return. The price for fuel is automatically calculated in the app - normally NOK 2 more than the pump price. If you fill up more than you have used, you will be refunded a liter price that is equivalent to NOK 1 more than at the pump. The app encourages the renter to rinse the car, but it appears somewhere that this is not necessary for hourly rentals.
Neighbor car
Returning with "take over without key" is as easy as renting. But since very few car owners have chosen this, you have to agree a place and time with the landlord. If you wish to end before the agreed time, a new meeting must be arranged. The app for Nabobil helps you take pictures of the car. Nabobil's policy is to deliver the car in the condition in which it was received. For many, this will mean a full wash or rinse before returning with the car. You must also fill up to the corresponding level, otherwise a fee will be charged. The levels are "empty", "quarter", "half", "three-quarter" and "full". The problem is that you often end up thinking too much. Few of us know how much we need to think for the tank to be three-quarters full.

 

Price

Hertz Car Pool
It is complicated to calculate the price. First, there is a membership fee that determines the other rates calculated by rental time and kilometers driven. The unclear price structure determines what kind of use Hertz BilPool really wants. In the case of "wrong" use, the rent falls far above what an equivalent rental car would have cost at Hertz's ordinary rental counters. Hourly and weekend rentals work well in terms of price. The price structure means that renting beyond one day of the week ends up with unreasonably high prices.
Rent
Hyre's rental prices are simple and understandable, and quite low. All car groups have the same prices. 150 km are included. A km fee must be paid for excess kilometres. Fixed daily prices make it advantageous to rent over several days, regardless of whether it is a weekend or weekday.
Neighbor car
Nabobil leaves it up to each car owner to decide the price and mileage limit. Renters often need to browse through several cars to find the best prices. Disregarding cars that are obviously wrongly priced, the price level at Nabobil is favorable per day. Only a few car owners offer hourly rentals.

 

Insurance

Hertz Car Pool
Covered via Gjensidige. The standard excess is NOK 6 but can be reduced to NOK 000 for NOK 2. 000 is in line with what most people have on their own car.
Rent
Covered via IF. The standard deductible is NOK 12 and can be reduced to NOK 000 for NOK 2 per day. Recommended, as 000 is a bit much.
Neighbor car
The standard deductible is NOK 12. Can be reduced to 000 for NOK 6 per day or NOK 000 per day for a van. Recommended. For NOK 50 per day or NOK 60 for a van, you can reduce your deductible to NOK 100

Hertz Car Pool, Hire or Neighbour's car
Cool registration number!

 

Price examples

Two types of tenancies are priced. One is weekend hire of a van, the other hourly hire of the cheapest available car. The order was made from Sjølyst, Oslo.

1. Hertz BilPool, 2018 Toyota ProAce van, Karenslyst avenue
2. Rent, 2018 VW Transporter, CC West
3. Neighbour's car, 2014 Ford Transit Custom, Thunes vei

  1 2 3
Distance to car: 250 m 3 m 900 m
3 days / weekend: 1 299 2 025 1 470
Km (494): 1 482 110 0
Fuel (35 l * NOK 16): 0 560 560
Deductible reduction: 0 (300) 180
Sink (3 tokens): 0 120 120
Total: 2 *) **) 2 **) ***) 2 **)

1. Hertz BilPool, 2018 Hyundai i10, Karenslyst allé
2. Rent, 2018 Seat Ibiza, Drammensveien
3. Neighbour's car, 2012 Toyota Verso, Lysaker

  1 2 3
Distance to car: 250 m 250 m 2 m
Hours (3): 117 210 400
Km (54): 162 0 0
Fuel (5 l * NOK 16): 0 80 80
Deductible reduction: 0 (100) 50
Sink (2 tokens): 0 0 80
Total: 279 *) **) 290 **) ***) 610 **)

*) In addition, a membership fee of NOK 199 per month is paid here. There are different subscriptions. The prices in the example are calculated with the "Small" subscription, which is intended for those who use the service a couple of times a month.
**) In addition, tolls are paid with a 25% VAT surcharge.
***) Deductible reduction not included. With a reduction of NOK 100 per day, the deductible is reduced from 12 to 000. The deductible for the other two is 2.

 

Conclusion

The main reason why Hertz BilPool and Hyre are perceived as better than Nabobil is that the former have adopted computer technology that Nabobil either does not have, or can impose on its private car owners. It is perceived as a system error when Nabobil presents cars for rent - without them actually being available. This is Nabobil's biggest challenge. It is also recommended that they draw up common guidelines for prices.

What makes car sharing possible is primarily new technology. As users, we want, for example, the following click pattern: I need a car "Now". I am "Terje", I am "At work" and the car will be "BMW i3", In the future it may come driving by itself. Until then, we can walk away and pick it up ourselves.

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