Leon

Seat to Norway again?

Seat has been in Norway before. Why did the brand disappear from new car shops? Can the brand be resurrected here at home? Do the cars have a chance?

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Inside the huge Seat plant in Martorell outside Barcelona, ​​the welding robots go full throttle to produce new cars. Not only new Seaters, but also Audis are coming out. It is not talked about very loudly, but here in the Catalan part of Spain, everything is going smoothly. The unemployment that has affected the rest of Spain does not exist here.
 
Seat is the fourth of five car brands in the Volkswagen Group (VAG). The others are Audi, Volkswagen and Skoda in descending order of prestige. I have never been clear as to whether Skoda is more prestigious than Seat. To me, they stand evenly and differ from each other in design. The fifth car brand is none other than Lamborghini! According to German motoring press, Lamborghini was saved at the last minute by German Audi engineers.

Cannibalism?

In 2006, Seat disappeared from car dealerships in Norway due to poor profitability. Seat was sold through a Møller-owned dealer network. What Møller knows is that when Seat is removed from the market, many customers will go to Skoda or Volkswagen instead. I imagine few customers will go to, say, Opel if they're looking for Seat. They will very likely buy another car model from the same group. If Seat's demise results in the same customers going to another, already established Møller-owned dealer, it would not be economically profitable for Møller to sell Seat.

Wrong target group and weird design

Seat Leon (Madrid)
Seat Leon (Madrid)

 
Some might think that Spanish-made cars are for young and hip people. Very stupid, when young people rarely have money to buy a new car, and hip people stick to prestige cars. Seat is simply a car for the "everyman" and the average family, - sensible people who think Toyota is OK but a bit boring. It sells on "value for money". The foursome, Spanish must by all means never be emphasized in a car advertisement! Did you know that the Seat factory supplies the whole world with the Audi Q3? Would Audi ever sell the Q3 as "Spanish and foursome"? I think not.
 
In the mid-2000s, all the Seats got a new design language, which is partly still alive. Responsible for the design was Walter de Silva, a genius-explained and high-profile car designer in the Volkswagen group. He has designed many fine cars, but the Seats were an unfortunate project for him Silva. Curved lines that criss-crossed and ended up in the middle of the car - like fluttering gloves along the car. It didn't turn out well. Nice cars should have lines that flow along the direction of travel and all main lines should preferably end together at the rear edge (shutlines).
 
But now then? The design is fresh and the technology is state-of-the-art. After driving a brand new Seat Leon with the brand new TDI common rail engine of 110 horses, I have no doubts: This is a car I could live with and drive hundreds of thousands of kilometers in. Even if it does not differ significantly from others cars on the market, it is a car of which there are not many on the road. Let's call it sensible individualism.
 
Lately, I've had the opportunity to spend quite a bit of time in Catalonia, the region that makes Seat. Why are there so few Seaters on the road? Without having done any serious counting, I think there are more Volkswagen Polos on the roads around Barcelona than there are Seat Ibizas. Both models are produced in Spain, respectively Pamplona and Barcelona. The taxi ranks at Sant's main station are filled with Skoda Octavias! The number of Seat Toledos can be counted on one hand. Do the Catalans really prefer Volkswagen and Skoda to their own heirloom silver? Maybe the Seat factory can't produce enough Seaters? Perhaps the group management has decided that the production lines should be filled up with other brands?
 
There is a danger that the Volkswagen group chooses the same solution as Møller did here at home. If Seat were to disappear, where would the customers go? Where they already go, of course! For Skoda and Volkswagen. Why then spend money on Seat?
 
If the Volkswagen group chooses to support Seat, I have faith that the brand will survive.
 
New Toledo and outgoing Altea have no future in Norway. Leon, on the other hand, is a very good model. In a campaign, well-equipped Leons can be styled and sold as Audi A3 lookalikes at Golf prices. The station wagon version has more space than the A3 Sportsback. In terms of quality, it is probably better than the Golf station wagon, which is produced in Mexico. On car review websites, it is no secret that owners of Mexican Golfs experience far worse quality than owners of European Golfs. The Ibiza is built on the same platform as the Polo, A1 and Fabia. It is available in a great station wagon version, too.

I like Seat because it increases the diversity on the road. It makes the traffic picture more pleasant.

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Leon on Norwegian roads?

 
The taxis at Sants main station in Barcelona. Not many Seaters.
The taxis at Sants main station in Barcelona. Not many Seaters.

 
Taxis at Placa Catalunya in Barcelona. Only Octavias - no Toledos here, no!
Taxis at Placa Catalunya in Barcelona. Only Octavias – no Toledos here, no!

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This car used so little diesel that I thought the fuel gauge had died.
This car used so little diesel that I thought the fuel gauge had died.
2017 Fiat Tipo. Will it come to Norway?
2017 Fiat Tipo.
Those who actually drive Seat.
Seat Ateca

Extremely low consumption!

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Oh, oh, I thought. Only 1500 miles on the odometer and then the fuel gauge has stopped working? After all, we have been driving around for hours with no results. Luckily I was wrong.

 

consumption seat leonLook and feel

 
In my opinion, Leon has had a successful design from the first model. Also saw our test car in Apollo Blue with 16 inch alloy wheels that I got to drive for a weekend around Essex, UK. Although it shares the chassis with the Golf, it appears longer and wider - but that turns out to be an optical illusion. On paper, only a couple of centimeters separate it from the Golf. Today's Leon is the third generation, and appears in a sharper design with a more aggressive front. With the LED package, you would get the beautiful triangular driving lights. Model pictured has standard reflectors.
 
Inside, it looks like a product from the Volkswagen group. The dashboard is simple in the sense of stylish (free of frills), without giving any premium feel. I didn't expect that either. The built-in screen has a nice location. With the upgraded infotainment system, the large screen can operate together with a small screen between the instrument dials, exactly the same type of solution that Audi has chosen. When I sit in, I notice that the seats are softer in the stop than what I am used to from Volkswagen and Audi. The seats are reminiscent of modern French cars. It was probably only now that I noticed something that could link it to its Latin origin. The seats are good, though. The handbrake is of the usual mechanical type and not electromechanical. Seat supports well be a little more easily equipped than Volkswagen and Audi?
 

consumption seat leonDriving pleasure

The 110 horsepower engine is a brand new common rail diesel that you can currently only get in Seat. On paper, it should be possible to keep consumption as low as 0,33 liters of diesel on the road. However, an extremely favorable consumption does not dampen the driving pleasure. The engine has good bottom traction. The forces are delivered to the drive wheels via a 6-speed gearbox which works perfectly in all speed ranges. On the road, I have the same good, slightly firm feeling as the Golf and Passat.
 

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Instruments that we are used to seeing in VAG products (the picture is taken from a car with km on the odometer and not miles as in the test car).

consumption seat leonComfort

The first thing I noticed on the comfort side was the noise level, i.e. the absence of engine noise in all speed ranges! You have to deliberately rev the engine to hear it. I don't know if this is a feature of this newly developed engine, or if Seat has paid for solid sound insulation against the engine compartment. In any case, it is a plus for comfort. Add comfortable seats, a good infotainment system and an air conditioning system from the Volkswagen group's shelves, and you have a comfortable journey ahead of you.

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consumption seat leonThe space conditions in the front and back are good. The luggage compartment of 380 liters is in the middle of the tree in this class. It is too small for families with children, but Leon has come with a station wagon - and it will probably be able to cover the space needs of ordinary families. Fortunately, the station wagon (ST) has emphasized design rather than load characteristics.

consumption seat leonSafety

All relevant safety equipment is in place from the Volkswagen group's shelves. Lane change alerts can be ordered.

consumption seat leonEconomy

We have tested an engine which is expected to appear in new Volkswagen Bluemotion models in the future. The Volkswagen Group has long tested new technology on its Seat models. I didn't get consumption measured, but as I said I discovered driving for hours without the fuel gauge moving, and without being slow in traffic. This promises very well! The engine has start & stop.
 
In terms of price, the Volkswagen group's philosophy is that Seat should be more affordable than a similarly equipped Volkswagen. In terms of equipment, you "must" have a full LED package. I would choose leather/alcantara seats and upgraded infotainment system with navigation à la Audi. Then we already have equipment worth NOK 50. I wonder if a panoramic sunroof would not be stylish? The price in Norway is not known, but you can import the car to Norway through The Møller group. I have made the following calculations based on French on-route prices (without winter package, winter tyres, extra equipment and shipping):

1.2 TSI 105 In-Tech 1.6 TDI CR 110 Style
Net price NOK 131 692 169 902
Norwegian VAT NOK 32 923 42 475
One-off scrap deposit etc. 55 769 42 152
A total of NOK 220 384 254 529

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  • Extremely low consumption
  • Pleasantly low sound level

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  • No

 

Nothing to criticize about the design of the mirror housing.

 

Destination: Afternoon Tea at Wivenhoe House

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Can Seat be resurrected here at home? Do the cars have a chance?
Can Seat be resurrected here at home? Do the cars have a chance?
Driving pleasure on the altar of downsizing?
Those who actually drive Seat.